BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING
BOROUGH OF WANAQUE
MINUTES
January 4, 2006
Date of Meeting:
January 4, 2006
BEFORE: Members of the Wanaque Board of
Adjustment/Public
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT FOR THIS MEETING:
Chairman Jack Dunning, Members: Frank Covelli, Peter Hoffman, Don Ludwig, Ted
Roberto, Ed Leonard, Art Koning, Eric Willse
OTHERS PRESENT FOR THIS HEARING:
RALPH FAASE, ESQ., Board Attorney
WILLIAM GREGOR, Board Engineer
REQUESTED
BY: Gerri Marotta
G & L
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Application #10-05 Donus 27
Application #11-05 Santoro 29
Application #15-05 Di Laura 30
Application #19-05 Biggio Brothers 33
Application #21-05 Fennelly 36
Application #20-05 Abma 38
Exhibits Evid.
Application #20-05
A-1 - Site Plan - Gerald Gardner &
Associates 41
A-2 - Architectural Plans - Richard A.
Bouchard 42
A-3 - Photograph of garage on
A-4 - Photograph of garage on
A-5 - Five Photographs of Applicants'
Property 47
Resolutions
Application #09-05 First Apple Reality
LLC. 145
Application #13-05 George and Lynn Dowson 152
Application #18-05
Correspondence 167
Vouchers 169
Pledge of Allegiance:
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is a reorganization and regular meeting
of the Wanaque Board of Adjustment.
Adequate notice has been duly advertised by the mailing of a notice to
the Suburban Trends and Herald News on the 13th day of December 2005. A notice thereof has been posted on the
bulletin board in the municipal building and a copy thereof is on file with the
Borough Clerk. Before the meeting, we
sworn in four new members, Mr. Eric Willse and Peter Hoffman was reappointed to
four year terms and Mr. Art Koning and Mr. Ed Leonard were appointed as two
year alternates. Roll call?
ROLL CALL: Chairman Jack Dunning, Frank Covelli, Peter
Hoffman, Don Ludwig, Ed Leonard, Art Koning, Eric Willse, Attorney Ralph
Faasse, Engineer William Gregor.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Members Bruce
Grygus, Ted Roberto
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, the next order of business is to
nominate a Chairman for the Board for 2006.
MR. COVELLI: I would like to nominate Jack Dunning.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll second that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other nominations? Roll Call.
NOMINATION OF JACK DUNNING FOR CHAIRMAN
OF THE BOARD IN 2006.
Made by Member Covelli, Seconded by
Member Ludwig. Voting yes were Members
Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay, thank you Mayor.
MAYOR BALUNIS: Mr. Chairman.
MR. FAASSE: How many years is this now?
MR. CHAIRMAN: That I've been on the Board?
MR. FAASSE: No, that you've been Chairman.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I don't know.
MR. FAASSE: Are you staying Mr. Mayor?
MAYOR BALUNIS: No, I have some other things to --
MR. FAASSE: Thank you very much for coming.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
All right. Let's move along
here. The next item is the nomination
for Vice Chairman.
MR. COVELLI: I would like to nomination Bruce Grygus.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll second that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
Do we have any other nominations?
Okay. Roll call on that Gerri?
NOMINATION OF BRUCE GRYGUS FOR VICE
CHAIRMAN
Made by Member Covelli, Seconded by
Member Ludwig. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. FAASSE: That will teach him to take a month off.
MR. CHAIRMAN: He goes to
MR. FAASSE: That's it.
That will teach you guys.
MR. COVELLI: See what happens when you are not here
Ralph.
MR. FAASSE: I know.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We know how to treat the members.
MR. HOFFMAN: Don't ever take a day off.
MR. COVELLI: That will teach him.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Next item is the nomination of the Board
Engineer. Before we go to that we need
to discuss the new legislation on the bidding or alternate process, right?
MR. FAASSE: Yeah.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, since you are our legal advice, would
you like to slightly explain this because nobody seems to understand it.
MR. FAASSE: I know nothing. I really haven't come up to speed with that I
didn't know the question was coming up.
There is a provision to keep persons who do business with towns from
donating to public officials and political parties but there also is a side to
it that certain positions, certain jobs, you do have to open it up for
bids. My understanding was, up until
tonight, was that the threshold for the bidding process was possible income to
salary totaling in excess of $17,500 but I am not 100 percent sure of
this. Certainly, I could research it to
be able to advise you further. I mean we
should be taking instructions from the Borough Attorney as well on this because
it should be uniform throughout the Borough and not just something that this
Board implements versus the Council and Planning Board. But that is about all I could tell you.
MR. COVELLI: Would you like Associate Council to add?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. FAASSE: I mean, I have Mr. Gregor here available.
MR. COVELLI: Well I am a graduate of the Princeton Laws of
School. I don't know about him.
MR. FAASSE: You got to tell the new guys the jokes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Member Covelli is going to update a little
bit. He is not --
MR. FAASSE: You got to tell them the joke,
MR. COVELLI: As I understand it, Mr. Chairman, and not
being legal counsel and putting those qualifiers into my following statements. The law affects the award of professional
services contracts for professionals that were previously exempt of the Public
Contracts Law, which used to be described as extraordinary and unspecifiable. Services of attorney, engineer, risk
management, auditor, all fall underneath those distinctions.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right, planners.
MR. COVELLI: I concur with Mr. Faasse that the law states
that unlike the Public Contracts Law the threshold is $17,500. It is my understanding it includes monies
that are paid through escrow.
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, whatever fees -- in other words that
you would generate from the town.
MR. COVELLI: There are two processes, as I understand
it. One process is called Fair and Open,
whereby the Board -- by the way, the Board is responsible for its own
appointments, independent of the Borough. Therefore, we have to make a decision
on whether we are going Fair and Open, which is process that requires us to
issue requests for qualification. Put out
a set of specifications or qualifications.
We have to -- we could either advertise it on a website or in a
newspaper. Give folks time to respond
and then award, not necessarily based on price considerations. On expertise, institutional knowledge,
etcetera, etcetera. Or we can go other
then Fair and Open, which means that a Certification which Gerri, as our Board
Secretary, would obtain from the Borough Clerk, indicates all of the political
campaigns of each of the governing body members and the parties within the town
and the Board Professionals would sign a Certification that they have not
exceeded reportable contributions for the previous 12 months. It would be my suggestion that the Board go
with that process. The Borough is going
under that process. The law just became
known about at the end of November.
There has been a lot of discussion back and forth. A lot of towns have not been able to get
fully up to speed. In fact, the
Department of Community Affairs, I went to a seminar a week and a half ago, the
Department of Community Affairs wasn't even completely clear on how this law is
going to fully shake out. So, basically,
the other then Fair and Open process, actually, does limit the contributions
and I think it is actually in the spirit or the intention of the law. And, in fact, I don't believe any of our
professionals would have a problem with that Certification. And, at that point, we can under tonight's
rules reorganize, appoint our professionals and move forward pending their
submission of the Certification to finalize their contracts.
MR. FAASSE: But the way I understand it though, you could
still certify that you contributed in excess of the $300 --
MR. COVELLI: You are exempt in 2005.
MR. FAASSE: Pardon?
MR. COVELLI: Contributions in excess of the $300 are
exempt for 2005.
MR. FAASSE: Right.
MR. COVELLI: Going forward the 300 rule applied.
MR. FAASSE: Right.
MR. COVELLI: Over 300 applies.
MR. FAASSE: Right.
But that doesn't preclude you from adding a position; it is just that
you have to disclose it. Right?
MR. COVELLI: No.
You will be signing a Certification --
MR. FAASSE: That you will not.
MR. COVELLI: -- for 2005, for the previous 12 months.
MR. FAASSE: For 2006.
MR. COVELLI: That you have not made reportable
contributions.
MR. FAASSE: Right.
MR. COVELLI: Because it is the first year, all
contributions in 2005 are non-reportable.
Going forward now in 2006, you can make up to $300 per elected official
and a party organization.
MR. FAASSE: Can't go to the dinner anymore.
MR. COVELLI: Not that I really know an awful lot about
this law, it is just what I picked up.
MS. MAROTTA: You picked up a lot.
MR. FAASSE: That is very interesting because I did go to
reorganization meetings both yours and in
MR. COVELLI: I am teasing, Gerri, the law is
applicable.
MR. FAASSE: That is why he is coming up to speed on it.
MR. COVELLI: I had to.
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, quick.
MR. LUDWIG: That Princeton Law School is pretty
good.
MR. COVELLI: They don't advertise. So with that said, Mr. Chairman, I would make
a motion to appoint -- can we do it combined or do you want it separate?
MR. FAASSE: Well the procedure you can do. You can make a motion for the procedure,
which one you want to follow.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The procedure, then we appoint each one
separately.
MR. COVELLI: I would make a motion that the Wanaque Board
of Adjustment for the 2006 year appoint our professionals under the
Certification process whereby they will certify to the Board and ultimately to
the Borough that they have not made any reportable contributions in the
previous 12 month period.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll second it.
MR. FAASSE: There you go.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
When Gerri goes to do the minutes, you will fill her in with what you
just said.
MR. COVELLI: Well so far she is running the tape so it is
probably on there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It is going to be tough.
MR. COVELLI: When we take over, no one knows what is going
to be on that CD.
MR. FAASSE: Listen, we can't wait until Gerri starts
doing the minutes.
MS. MAROTTA: Do you want me to do a roll call on this?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, we have to do a roll call on this.
MOTION TO APPOINT BOARD PROFESSIONALS
UNDER THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS
Made by Member Covelli, second by Member
Ludwig. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MS. MAROTTA: So this for the Certification of the Process.
UNIDENTIFIED MEMBER: So gentlemen, do you always take advice from
a non-attorney and then vote? I am just
kidding.
MR. LUDWIG: It is the
MR. FAASSE: Listen, he is going to summarize this and
give us all a memo.
UNIDENTIFIED MEMBER: Oh, okay.
MR. FAASSE: As to what he said so we will all understand.
MR. COVELLI: Please no more members, I have written enough
about this.
MR. LUDWIG: In light of that, we were on for the --
MR. CHAIRMAN: Nomination of the Board Engineer.
MS. MAROTTA: Now we can do the engineer.
MR. LUDWIG: I would like to nominate Bill Gregor.
MR. COVELLI: I would like to second that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, do we have any other nominations for
the position of Board Engineer? Okay,
let's close that. Let's go with a roll
call on that, Gerri.
NOMINATION OF WILLIAM GREGOR FOR BOARD
ENGINEER:
Made by Member Ludwig and Second by
Member Covelli. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. FAASSE: Congratulations, how many years is that for
you?
MR. GREGOR: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, nomination of the Board Attorney.
MR. FAASSE: Did we ever check his license though? We should check it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That is true.
MR. GREGOR: It is valid.
MR. LUDWIG: You sure it is in full effect.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It is long licensed?
MR. FAASSE: One that shows up on a website.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Oh, an engineering degree.
MR. LUDWIG: In light of that I would like to nominate
Ralph Faasse, as long as he is a member of the Bar and in good standing.
MR. FAASSE: As far as I know, I am.
MR. LUDWIG: Okay.
MR. COVELLI: I would like to second that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: A second on that, okay. Is there any other nominations for the
position of Board Attorney? Okay, we
close that. Let's have a roll call on
that Gerri.
NOMINATION OF RALPH FAASSE AS BOARD
ATTORNEY:
Made by Member Ludwig, second by Member
Covelli. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Congratulations.
MR. FAASSE: Thank you.
Like Abraham Lincoln, you see you can fool some of the people some of
the time.
MS. MAROTTA: Ralph and Bill you are going to have to send
me contracts now.
MR. FAASSE: Contracts now?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Um-hum
MR. FAASSE: No, Certification he said.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Certification.
MR. COVELLI: There has to be contracts, there has to be
contracts also.
MR. FAASSE: Really?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Certification is income.
MR. FAASSE: Oh man, I am going to have to do some
research on this.
MR. HOFFMAN: Wow, its too late, you already agreed.
MR. COVELLI: The difference is, when I do the research it
is free, when you do it is per hour.
MR. FAASSE: I know.
MR. CHAIRMAN: How many years have you been here?
MR. FAASSE: Oh, since 1980.
MR. CHAIRMAN: 1980, that's going on 26 now.
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, you think they ought to give me a
plaque.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We should give you a plaque, okay.
MR. FAASSE: Name a building after me.
MR. CHAIRMAN: There you go, the Faasse wing.
MR. FAASSE: The part where the judge is shot. That's all right, we'll get a mirror in the
bathroom. We'll call it the Faasse mirror.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, next item is the Procedures and
Bi-laws.
MR. FAASSE: They would be the same.
MR. CHAIRMAN: To continue as we have used the ones that
have exist in the past that Mr. Faasse is the keeper of.
MR. FAASSE: I don't know, I think it is in the storage
closet.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Somewhere.
I need a motion on that.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll make a motion.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, a second on that.
MR. HOFFMAN: I'll second it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
Roll call.
MOTION TO USE THE EXISTING PROCEDURES AND
BILAWS:
Made by Member Ludwig, second by Member
Hoffman, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Covelli,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
Next item is the adoption of the existing meeting dates to continue on
the first Wednesday of the month and our site visits are to be conducted on the
Saturday proceeding the monthly meeting at 10 a.m. when required.
MR. LUDWIG: I make a motion to maintain
the existing dates.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We got to check the calendar first.
MR. FAASSE: No, the only question I would have, we always
had the 7:30 work session, 8 o'clock start a meeting.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Um-hum.
MR. FAASSE: Would the Board want to consider just -- you
know -- I mean the work sessions have been relatively meaningless.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right, but you know what it does? It gets everybody here so we can start at 8
o'clock.
MR. FAASSE: Well I just wondering if you want to 7:30, to
see if you want to start at 7:30.
MR. CHAIRMAN: But then you would want to get here
earlier.
MR. FAASSE: All right, no, I just --
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well it is up to you.
MR. FAASSE: I'll tell you one thing we can't ever --
MR. CHAIRMAN: Catch up or whatever.
MR. FAASSE: -- take a vacation in August.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR. FAASSE: We got killed this year with that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
Well that is a thought. That is
the next item after the meeting date.
Let's do the meeting date first, then we will go to the time, that is
the next item.
MR. FAASSE: Okay, I'm sorry.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay. All right, so to stay with our meeting
schedule which is the first Wednesday of every month and our, when required,
Saturday site visits at 10 a.m. proceeding the meetings.
MR. COVELLI: Motion.
MS. MAROTTA: Well, Don made it.
MR. COVELLI: Second.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You are the second. Roll Call.
MOTION TO STAY WITH THE FIRST WEDNESDAY
OF THE MONTH MEETING SCHEDULE:
Made by Member Ludwig, Second by Member
Covelli. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, next item is the time. In the past, as counsel was just speaking
about, we have 7:30 workshop and an 8 o'clock meeting. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
MR. COVELLI: I'm late at 8 o'clock sometimes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I know, sometimes it hard getting here.
MR. HOFFMAN: Do we advertise the 7:30 that immediately
preceding we can begin business?
MR. FAASSE: No, we -- work session 7:30, regular meeting
8.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR. HOFFMAN: Wouldn't it be wise for us to do that so if
we wanted to start early.
MR. FAASSE: We would have a problem then for the notice
for the public hearing.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We would have to give special notice.
MR. HOFFMAN: No, if you advertised the work session at
7:30 --
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR. HOFFMAN: -- with the regular meeting immediately
following it can be anywhere after 7:30.
MR. FAASSE: That's true.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR. HOFFMAN: Which means that if we had a very heavy
agenda, we had a full Board we would actually start at 7:45 for example.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We could start at 7:30.
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, but the only problem we have then is
that we have to tell the applicants to notify at a specific time. So what do we tell them, 7:30, quarter to 8,
8 o'clock.
MR. HOFFMAN: 7:30 is the work session with the regular
meeting immediately proceeding.
MR. FAASSE: Whatever your pleasure.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Whatever your pleasure is gentlemen.
MR. HOFFMAN: And then you have a window to speed up or
slow down the process accordingly.
MR. FAASSE: The only trouble you have with that when you
say that the work session --
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is the notice, right?
MR. FAASSE: Well the notice but then you also get the
public asking, why aren't you starting on time.
MR. HOFFMAN: We are starting at 7:30. We have a work session.
MR. FAASSE: I know, I am just saying.
MR. HOFFMAN: And then he can take a recess to 8 o'clock if
he wants. Depending on the number of
Board Members.
MR. FAASSE: You might have just a problem with the public
that way.
MR. HOFFMAN: Hum?
MR. FAASSE: You might have problems with the public when
people come out at 7:30.
MR. LUDWIG: It just seems to me that 8 o'clock is
rough.
MR. FAASSE: For some.
MR. LUDWIG: Frank has had a couple of times when he has
been struggling to get here.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Oh yeah.
When you look at -- you run into things with your job. Ted, when he does make it, usually just makes
it by 8 o'clock. It can be tough.
MR. COVELLI: You want to leave it the way it is.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Let's leave it along for now.
MR. FAASSE: All right.
MR. COVELLI: Motion.
MS. MAROTTA: Frank are you making the motion?
MR. COVELLI: 7:30, 8 o'clock.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll second that.
MS. MAROTTA: Second it, Don.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right, the other thing is --
MR. HOFFMAN: Do we have write in our ending?
MR. CHAIRMAN: That is the other point.
MR. HOFFMAN: With no more testimony after 10 or 10:30.
MR. CHAIRMAN: 11 o'clock curfew we should put in
there.
MR. FAASSE: That was always a rule that we followed.
MR. HOFFMAN: Okay.
Does that have to be in the reorganization?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well we made that up a long time ago, we
never put into the actual reorganization of our times.
MR. FAASSE: No, but -- you know -- you can say that we
are going to have a curfew at 11.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
MS. MAROTTA: You mean you are going to cut the
applications at 11?
MR. HOFFMAN: No more testimony after 10:30.
MR. FAASSE: A curfew, a curfew at 11. So an application
--
MS. MAROTTA: Because then after applications you still
have --
MR. CHAIRMAN: No, no, I can cut them off a 20 to and say we
got 20 minutes of Board business to finish out so we are out of here by 11
o'clock.
MS. MAROTTA: Oh.
MR. FAASSE: So everyone knows that and can their
wives.
MS. MAROTTA: I don't have to advertise that though.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We don't want to tell these new gentlemen how
late we stay here sometimes. So let's
not go there.
MS. MAROTTA: You also don't want to them about 1 o'clock
meetings.
MR. FAASSE: There are some rules that are honored and
they are a violation, this is one of them.
MS. MAROTTA: Okay, the time of the meeting is going to
remain the same so we really don't have to take a vote.
MR. FAASSE: Yeah 7:30 work session, 8 o'clock regular.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right, the same thing.
MS. MAROTTA: Okay.
MOTION FOR THE TIME OF MEETINGS TO REMAIN
AT 7:30 WORK SESSION, 8 O'CLOCK REGULAR MEETING:
Made by Member Covelli, Second by Member
Ludwig. Voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard,
Koning, Willse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, next item is the official newspapers of
notice. In the past we have used the
Suburban Trends and the Herald News, which I believe the Borough is still using
and we followed that standard for many years.
We need a motion on that.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll make a motion to stay with existing.
MR. LEONARD: Second.
MS. MAROTTA: All right, who made it.
MR. LUDWIG: Ludwig.
MS. MAROTTA: And Ed?
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, you are supposed to try and do that --
you know -- make it easy, you guys are right here.
MOTION FOR THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPERS OF
NOTICE TO REMAIN THE SUBURBAN TRENDS AND HERALD NEWS
Made by Member Ludwig, Second by Member
Leonard. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, the next item is a motion to direct the
Board Secretary to advertise in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Acts
to give notice of the meetings dates for the year 2006.
MR. FAASSE: It would be to advertise and give further
notice in accordance with.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Um-hum.
MR. FAASSE: Because the Mayor and Council gives -- you
know -- the Borough Clerk gives hers.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Um-hum.
MR. LUDWIG: I'll make that motion, Member Ludwig.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Got a second?
MR. KONING: Second, Art Koning.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, roll call.
MOTION TO DIRECT BOARD SECRETARY TO
ADVERTISE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT:
Made by Member Ludwig, Second by Member
Koning. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, thank you. Gerri this is yours.
MS. MAROTTA: Okay.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right, now we are going to take a
five-minute break and then we are going to start our regular meeting. Now, where is the agenda?
MR. FAASSE: Right, here.
You only got two.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I know.
We got to get the new members.
MR. FAASSE: Okay, and I got to have --
MR. CHAIRMAN: That folder.
MR. FAASSE: Okay, the only two matters -- just for the
audience, the only two matters that we do have that hasn't been adjourned is
Theodore Did Laura. Is there someone on
the application here? Theodore Di Laura?
MS. MAROTTA: I don't see him.
MR. FAASSE:
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, the other applicants. Donus is being carried, Santoro is being
carried, Biggio is being carried and Fennelly is being carried.
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, that is Donus is
Unidentified Female: Yes, that is what I am here for.
MR. FAASSE: You are here on that one?
Unidentified Female: Yes. I
am.
MR. CHAIRMAN:
MR. FAASSE: All right.
Fennelly is -- we had a letter from an attorney on that one, didn't we.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right, somewhere.
MR. FAASSE: Is that Mr. Becker too?
MR. CHAIRMAN: No.
MR. LUDWIG: Di Laura and Abma.
MS. MAROTTA: Here is the letter on Santoro, here is a
letter on --
MR. CHAIRMAN: Here is Santoro's letter.
MS. MAROTTA: Here is Donus' letter.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You can put these away.
MS. MAROTTA: Donus' letter.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, that is Donus.
MS. MAROTTA: Here, this is Fennelly.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right, that is Fennelly.
MS. MAROTTA: How many do you got there? You got the four now?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Three.
MR. FAASSE: No, I got three.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Three.
MS. MAROTTA: Oh.
There is the fourth one there. Di
Laura.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Di Laura.
MS. MAROTTA: Di Laura, I didn't get a letter.
MR. FAASSE: Di Laura, nobody is here yet.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right, leave that here.
Application #10-05, David Donus,
MR. FAASSE: All right.
Okay, so why don't we just take this.
David Donus Application, we have a letter here from the attorney. Unfortunately, Mr. Barbarula is under the
weather. He has a very bad cold,
laryngitis, cannot speak. Wow, what good
is an attorney. Sometimes the attorneys
that speak are no good but -- you know.
Now you got one that can't speak.
So he has asked to be carried to the February -- what is that date? Where is your official calendar Mr. Gregor?
MR. GREGOR: 2/1
MR. FAASSE: The first.
MR. GREGOR: The first.
MR. FAASSE: So the motion would be to carry the Donus
Application to February 1.
MR. LUDWIG: I make a motion -- Member Ludwig makes the
motion to carry to February 1st.
MR. FAASSE: Okay, who second it?
MR. HOFFMAN: I'll second.
Do we have time on that? Is there
enough time?
MR. CHAIRMAN: What about the clock on that?
MS. MAROTTA: Wait a minute, I'm not -- wait, hold on. I'm not on this here. What did you just do?
MR. CHAIRMAN: We are talking about Donus carrying it to the
next meeting. Didn't we have him give us
an extension?
MR. FAASSE: Yeah, we are good here until June 5th.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay, he signed an extension at the last
meeting.
MS. MAROTTA: What is Donus' Application number?
MR. FAASSE: It is 10-05.
MS. MAROTTA: Okay, and we are carrying it?
MR. FAASSE: Ludwig made a motion, seconded by Member
Hoffman to carry this to the February 1st meeting as the attorney is under the
weather.
MOTION TO CARRY THE DONUS' APPLICATION TO
THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING.
Made by Member Ludwig, Second by Member
Hoffman. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
Application #11-05, Santoro,
MR. FAASSE: All right the next one is Santoro, this is
application 11-05. Again we got a letter
from Mr. Carlo Coppa asking to me carried to the February meeting. We have an
extension of time here, based upon this adjournment request the applicant
hereby waives any and all time requirements.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Oh.
MR. FAASSE: That is a fact.
MR. LUDWIG: A motion to carry it to 2/1/06. Member Ludwig.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR. FAASSE: And who second it?
MR. HOFFMAN: I'll second it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR. FAASSE: Hoffman seconds it. This was a situation where we needed revised
plans. I think we had them in the packet
last month, revised plans on that. But
there was a notice requirement as well.
He had to renotice.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR. FAASSE: And I again explained that to Mr. Coppa
again, today, in a telephone conversation.
Gerri would you take the roll please?
MS. MAROTTA: Sure.
MOTION TO CARRY SANTORO APPLICATION TO
FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING.
Made by Member Ludwig, seconded by Member
Hoffman. Voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, Willse.
Application #15-05, Di Laura,
MR. FAASSE: Anyone here on the Theodore Di Laura? This one we got a problem on. Did we get an extension on that?