BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING
BOROUGH OF WANAQUE
MINUTES
September 6, 2006
BEFORE:
Members of the Wanaque Board of Adjustment/ Public
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT FOR THIS HEARING:
Chairman, William Grygus, Frank Covelli, Peter
Hoffman, Don Ludwig, Ed Leonard, Art Koning, Eric Wilse
OTHERS PRESENT FOR THIS HEARING:
RALPH FAASSE, ESQ., Board Attorney
WILLIAM GREGOR, Township Engineer
REQUESTED BY: Gerri Marotta
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Application #11-05 Santoro 3
Application #21-05 Finnelly 8
Application #09-06 Marsh 11
Application #13-06 Johnny De 12
Application #18-06 Ott 20
Application #10-06 Miuccio 23
Application #16-06 Koslosky 99
Resolutions 136
Correspondence 142
Vouchers 146
Minutes 149
Discussion
161
Exhibits Evid.
A1-4 Pictures 90
Salute to Flag:
MR.
CHAIRMAN: This is a regular meeting of
the Wanaque Board of Adjustment.
Adequate notice has been given by a duly advertised notice in the Herald
News and Suburban Trends News on the 6th day of January 2006. Notice has been posted on the bulletin board,
in the
ROLL CALL: Chairman Jack Dunning,
Members Bruce Grygus, Peter Hoffman, Don Ludwig, Ed Leonard, Art Koning, Eric
Willse, Attorney Ralph Faasse, and Engineer William Gregor.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Members Frank Covelli, and
Ted Roberto.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Member Covelli called me, he’ll be here about
8:30.
MR.
FAASSE: Oh.
MS.
MAROTTA: Okay.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: He had some business to take
care of. Okay. We’re going to run our agenda out of order as
usual to clean up the carry forwards.
So, let’s start right at the top of the list.
Application #11-05 Cosmo and Theresa Santoro,
MR.
CHAIRMAN: 11-05 the Santoro application,
1185 is on a bulk and use variance.
MR.
FAASSE: Yes, Mr. Chairman, we got a
communication from the attorney for the applicants, Carlo J. Kapa (phonetic)
asking this be carried to the October 4th meeting, and the client waives and
all time requirements as it relates to this matter. It was faxed to the secretary, I believe, and
myself.
MR.
GRYGUS: Ralph, are they giving you any
indication of what’s hold them up, cause this is like --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: It’s a year old.
MR.
GRYGUS: -- a year in July.
MR.
FAASSE: Well, the only thing I heard
from Mr. Kappa was that he thought that the engineer and the applicant were
going to retain the planner, and they must have thought he was going to do it,
and it wasn’t done. So, they don’t have
no planner to testify yet.
MR.
LUDWIG: But as aside, driving past the
place there’s been no attempt at re-mediating some of the problems with the
place.
MR.
FAASSE: I don’t know what problems your
alluding to.
MR.
LUDWIG: Just that the overgrown
property. MR. CHAIRMAN: Yea, but that doesn’t have any action by this
board, right.
MR.
GRYGUS: That has nothing to do with us,
that’s an enforcement issue.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea, that’s maintenance.
MR.
GRYGUS: Well, I kind of think it would
be prudent to tell him that we expect to see some kind
of --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Well, we can give him 30 days,
and if not we’re going to dismiss the application.
MR.
GRYGUS: So, we want to have him come in
and start giving some --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Well, after the last revision,
which has got to be five or six months ago on the site plan.
MR.
FAASSE: I don’t think we have all the
plans yet.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: No, no. He revised his plans, Bill wrote a comment
letter --
MR.
GREGOR: I’d have to go back, I don’t
recall, ti’s been so long.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. And the question was what Lorry (phonetic)
Avenue, Street, what -- road, whatever that little street is, thy were going to
find out is it a dedicated borough road, is it a private road, that’s where we
left off.
MR.
FAASSE: And I thought on the revisions
to the plans.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: No, because the -- the --
MR.
LUDWIG: That was one of the main
stumbling blocks.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: -- Ralph, that effects the
plan, because that effects the parking on the north end of the building.
MR.
GRYGUS: Right cause the --
MR.
WILLSE: They didn’t have use of that
road, they couldn’t do anything.
MR.
GREGOR: Ralph is correct though, there
were other open issues. But I think
that’s the paramount issue.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right, because that’s going to
change the parking schematic on the plan.
MR.
FAASSE: Well, you certainly -- you
certainly would be within your rights to send a letter to Mr. Kapa indicating
that the Board granted the adjournment, however, if the applicant is not
prepared to proceed on the 4th, we intend to dismiss for failure to prosecute.
MR.
GRYGUS: Failure to prosecute.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR.
GRYGUS: I’ll make that motion.
MR.
LUDWIG: I’ll second it.
MS.
MAROTTA: On or before what date?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: September 4th.
MR.
GRYGUS: October 4th meeting.
MS.
MAROTTA; You mean October 4th.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: October 4th.
MR.
LUDWIG: I’ll second it.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: And any new plans or
revisions, or whatever have to be --
MR.
GRYGUS: Have to be in ten days before.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: -- at least ten days before
that meeting date.
MS.
MAROTTA: Okay, Bruce you made the
motion?
MR.
GRYGUS: Yes.
MS.
MAROTTA: And Don you second it?
MR.
LUDWIG: Right.
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO OCTOBER 4TH
MEETING: made by Member Ludwig,
seconded by Member Grygus, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Grygus,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, and Willse.
MR.
FAASSE: And I would just also suggest
that since it is that type of a strong letter that it should be cc’d to the
applicants.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right. Yea, go to the applicant and the attorney,
definitely.
MR.
FAASSE: All right.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: The next item on the agenda
which is 19-05 Biago Brothers is actually there by mistake, that was a computer
clich.
MR.
FAASSE: No it wasn’t.
MS.
MAROTTA; No.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Yes it was.
MR.
FAASSE: No, she asked
MR.
LUDWIG: It was carried to October.
MR.
FAASSE: -- he asked me, and I said put
it on so that the Board was aware of the fact that it was dismissed in case
something did come in.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: We dismissed it, all right.
MR.
KONINGS: So, it’s dismissed.
MR.
FAASSE: So, it was my mistake then not a
computer clitch.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR.
FAASSE: For the Board’s edification, and
for those that take vacations, you know, things like that.
Application #21-05 Fennelly, 6 Oak Street.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: The next application is
21-05. Finnelly or Fennelly?
MR.
GRYGUS: Fennelly.
MS.
MAROTTA: It’s Fennelly.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Fennelly. We’ll get it right.
MS.
MAROTTA: Fennelly makes it Italian.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MS.
MAROTTA: By saying Fennelly it makes it
Irish.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR.
FAASSE: Oh. How do you know whether he’s Irish or
Italian.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: This is the Fennelly
application 21-05,
MS.
MAROTTA: Yea, I believe --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Oh, we do.
MR.
FAASSE: Oh, okay. Steven C. Chetlas (phonetic). I write to you on behalf of my firm’s clients
the Fennelly applicants. Okay,
basically, bottom line is he respectfully requests that the matter be carried
from the Board’s meeting of September 6th to October 4th, and he consents to an
extension of time to act through October 31, 2006. So, carry it to the 4th.
MR.
GRYGUS: Make a motion to carry it to the
October 4th meeting.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Second on that?
MR.
WILLSE: Second.
MS.
MAROTTA: Eric.
MR.
GRYGUS: If you had nameplates, you’d
know who it was.
MS.
MAROTTA: I’m Just learning these guys,
I’m just starting to get their names straight.
MR.
FAASSE: Well, you understand, you know,
we tried to implement the procedure that when you gentlemen make a motion, you
say --
MR.
GRYGUS: Member, I know.
MR.
FAASSE: I move Faasse, you know. I Faasse move.
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO OCTOBER 4TH
MEETING: made by Member Ludwig,
seconded by Member Grygus, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Grygus,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, and Willse.
MR.
FAASSE: What did they say, you can’t
teach old dogs new tricks or something like that?
MR.
GREGOR: That’s right.
MR.
FAASSE: But the new guys, you think you
guys --
MR.
WILLSE: I didn’t know I was that old.
MR.
FAASSE: No, I know, you think you would
pick up, cause your young.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR.
FAASSE: You sure your not Dutch?
MR.
GREGOR: Oh, I am a little bit.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Moving on. We’re moving on.
MR.
FAASSE: Yes, yes, I’m waiting. Marsh.
Application #9-06 Marsh,
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Application 9-06, Edward and
Gail Marsh,
MR.
FAASSE: Fourth.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: -- 4th, I’m sorry. October 4th, hopefully the plans and notice
will be in time. Need a motion on this.
MR.
LUDWIG: Motion to carry to October 4th.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay, second.
MR.
KONING: Second, Art Koning
MR.
FAASSE: There you go.
MR.
GREGOR: And, Jack, that’ll be bulk and
use variances, both.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR.
GREGOR: Yea.
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO OCTOBER 4TH
MEETING: made by Member Ludwig,
seconded by Member Grygus, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Grygus,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, and Willse.
MR.
FAASSE: And a decision as to the zoning
on that particular lot, which was I think a decision made by the Chairman and
the engineer was concurred in by the Borough attorney.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Borough attorney, right, he
agrees with us.
MR.
FAASSE: Yes. It should be noteworthy.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right. Which we have a letter from the Borough
attorney --
MR.
FAASSE: To that effect.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: -- agreeing that it’s RD3
zone.
MR.
GREGOR: Can I get a copy of that letter
for my file.
MR.
FAASSE: What do you want, everything.
MR.
GREGOR: Yea.
Application #13-06 Johnny De,
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Next application is 13-06, which is John --
we’ll call it the Johnny De application,
MR.
HOFFMAN: It’s still a minor subdivision.
MR.
GREGOR: No, that makes it a major.
MR.
HOFFMAN: Oh, okay, major subdivision.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Because of there use?
MR.
GREGOR: No, because anything which does
not meet the definition of minor --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Because of the RD3 zone.
MR.
GREGOR: -- is a major.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Now, we have something here --
MS.
MAROTTA: Is his attorney aware of that?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: We’ve heard from the attorney
today I understand.
MR.
FAASSE: Mr. Sist (phonetic).
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Correct, Mr. Gregor, Mr.
Faasse?
MR.
FAASSE: I don’t know. Darrell W. Sist.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Dated today.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea. What’s this?
We had an affidavit of service.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Gerri, did you get anything on
a new notice?
MS.
MAROTTA: John De called me today and he
said he requested a copy of the article he published, because in it he
published a use variance, but he didn’t get it.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: In his initial submittal,
notice?
MS.
MAROTTA: No.
MR.
FAASSE: No, no, no, this is the one that
Mr. Peck, who has since retired and absconded from the State of
MS.
MAROTTA: He told he re-noticed
every-body, --
MR.
FAASSE: Shouldn’t say that with any
derogatory.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: He didn’t leave the State.
MR.
FAASSE: He was planning on leaving the
State.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: He got his final.
MS.
MAROTTA: -- but I don’t have
anything. He didn’t give me the
receipts.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: It’s the original notice.
MR.
FAASSE: He had original notice, and then
he re-noticed -- Peck re-noticed.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right, exactly.
MR.
FAASSE: Didn’t he provide that affidavit
and everything? Well, we can check this
out. But, in any event, --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: The first time that came we
didn’t hear him because there was a --
MR.
FAASSE: -- it’s carried to October the
4th, with a motion.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: -- a problem with the notice.
MR.
LUDWIG: But meanwhile he’s building down
there, what’s up with that?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: No, that’s a different piece
of property.
MR.
FAASSE: Oh.
MR.
GRYGUS: That’s a different piece of
property.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: That’s the Planning Board
approved that one, not us.
MR.
GRYGUS: I’ll make a motion to carry it
to the October 4th meeting, member Grygus.
MR.
FAASSE: And then we’ll check out the
notice requirement. Because I know Mr.
Peck gave it all over again, he argued with me.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Your right.
MR.
FAASSE: And he put it in the paper.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR.
FAASSE: It went definitely in the paper.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MS.
MAROTTA: He advertised for a use.
MR.
FAASSE: Oh, yea.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: I think so.
MR.
FAASSE: Because that’s the only way we
had jurisdiction, and he argued it.
Remember we had the argument in the first meeting --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Your right.
MR.
FAASSE: -- and he said it’s not a use
variance, Mr. Faasse. I said then we
don’t have jurisdiction.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Before we leave tonight let’s
check their folder.
MR.
GRYGUS: Cause of density.
MR.
FAASSE: Right.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR.
LUDWIG: I’ll second that.
MR.
FAASSE: So, he finally capitulated in --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right. Okay.
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO OCTOBER 4TH
MEETING: made by Member Grygus,
seconded by Member Ludwig, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Grygus,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, and Willse.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Now, how about time on that?
MR.
FAASSE: That one might be a problem.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Gerri, we have a time extended
from Johnny De?
MR.
GRYGUS: Only good to 9/24.
MR.
FAASSE: 9/24, yea.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Yea, I don’t think we’re good.
MR.
FAASSE: So, it would be that we carry it
till October the 4th with a 90 day extension.
MR.
GRYGUS: With a stipulation that we get a
90 day extension --
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR.
GRYGUS: -- before or it will be
dismissed without prejudice.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea, we should mark these.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: I know, we got to -- we got so
many --
MR.
FAASSE: Start marking these.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: -- I know.
MR.
FAASSE: Cause I know like Morris got an
extension. Miuccio we asked for one, I
assume it’s in the file.
MR.
GRYGUS: Maybe after we put the
incompletion date, maybe we could put the expiration date.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Extension dates.
MS.
MAROTTA: His completion date was May
24th.
MR.
GRYGUS: And then every time you do the
agenda, you could change it based upon the extensions.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR.
GRYGUS: Then we would know just by
looking at the agenda.
MS.
MAROTTA: So, how many days you got?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: 120 days.
MS.
MAROTTA: June, July, August, September.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: It’s four months, it expires
September 24th. Member Gregor is our
time clock.
MS.
MAROTTA: Okay, so what do you want me to
do?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Did he sign an -- we talked
about something with him.
MS.
MAROTTA: No, he didn’t.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: He didn’t.
MR.
GREGOR: He’s got to be notified that it
will be dismissed without prejudice if we do not receive the 90 day extension
before September 24th.
MR.
FAASSE: Right. So, your moving that replacement motion.
MR.
GREGOR: Right.
MR.
FAASSE: Whose seconding it?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Art.
MR.
LUDWIG: Ludwig.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Don.
MS.
MAROTTA: Yes, I did a roll call already.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: But now we just changed --
MR.
FAASSE: We just have an amendment.
MR.
GREGOR: Amended the --
MS.
MAROTTA: What are we doing now?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: We amended it.
MR.
LUDWIG: I’ll second the amendment.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Right. We amended our carry.
MS.
MAROTTA: What?
MR.
CHAIRMAN: We amended our carry forward.
MR.
GRYGUS: We amended the carry to add the
stipulation that it be --
MS.
MAROTTA: Okay.
MR.
FAASSE: We replaced the existing motion
with a new motion.
MS.
MAROTTA: Okay, and you made the motion
again, and you seconded it again.
MR.
LUDWIG: I’ll second it.
MS.
MAROTTA: Okay.
MOTION TO AMEND MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO
OCTOBER 4TH MEETING: made by
Member Grygus, seconded by Member Ludwig, voting yes were Chairman Dunning,
Members Grygus, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, and Willse.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Please send that letter out to
Johnny De and the attorney as rapidly as possible.
MR.
FAASSE: There you go. Okay.
Koslosky, is that on for tonight, are we ready on that one?
Application #18-06 Ott,
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay, now, the last one we’re
here going to hear quickly is 18-06, which is the Ott application, which is 9
First Avenue, this is on a use, bulk, and any other special condition. I believe we heard from this applicant today,
also, Gerri?
MS.
MAROTTA: Yes.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea, there’s a request that we
carry it to the October 4th meeting, cause he couldn’t comply with all the
requirements that Mr. Gregor set forth in his letter. Did I summarize that right? I think it was a handwritten note on a yellow
piece of paper. Ger? Not yellow.
Oh, we did get a letter. That’s
right, I summed it up. But we also have
a problem here, as that I don’t have any proof of notice,
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Did we ever get the notice?
MR.
FAASSE: I have no proof of notice on
this one.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Because actually tonight’s the
first, this was not on our agenda.
MS.
MAROTTA: He didn’t do anything yet.
MR.
FAASSE: Okay. All right, so it’s going to be carried for a
twofold purpose, one that the applicant requested the adjournment, and, two,
because there’s no notice.
MR.
GRYGUS: Ralph, would it be prudent or
would it be proper for this board to perhaps advise the applicant that it --
they want to consider seeking counsel advise on that application.
MR.
GRYGUS: That’s a very unique
application.
MR.
FAASSE: He has an attorney.
MR.
GRYGUS: What’s that?
MR.
FAASSE: He has an attorney on this
one. This one was filed --
MR.
GRYGUS: Oh, that was filed by the attorney.
MR.
FAASSE: Authorized agent, attorney. That’s why I’m very surprised that --
MR.
GRYGUS: Okay. I didn’t see, okay.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: He copied his attorney.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea, he copied his attorney.
MR.
GRYGUS: Okay. I thought that the application only had his
name on it, I don’t remember seeing it.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: No, no, the attorney’s on the
face.
MR.
GRYGUS: Oh, is he.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Yea.
MR.
GRYGUS: Okay.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: The face copies got the
attorneys name and address.
MR.
GRYGUS: Okay.
MR.
LUDWIG: Somebody make a motion or no?
MR.
LEONARD: Not yet.
MR.
LUDWIG: I’ll make a motion to carry that
to October 4th.
MR.
LEONARD: Second.
MS.
MAROTTA: Ed, you second it?
MR.
LEONARD: Yea.
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO OCTOBER 4TH
MEETING: made by Member Ludwig,
seconded by Member Leonard, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Grygus,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning, and Willse.
THE
CHAIRMAN: Okay. We’re doing good, we trimmed it down.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea, that’s it.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: It’s looking better by the
minute, okay. Now, this is a use
variance.
MR.
FAASSE: Huh.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Frank will be here at 8:30, I
just wanted to make sure we got enough people, otherwise we’ll do something
else first.
MR.
FAASSE: Which one’s the use?
MR.
GRYGUS: August 22nd, so I guess this is
the most recent.
MR.
FAASSE: One, two, three, four -- we got
seven vote.
Application #10-06 Miuccio,
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Next application we’re going to move to is
Miuccio, which is -- what number is this?
MR.
FAASSE: It looks like 10-06.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: 10-06,
MR.
FAASSE: No, we never started it.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: And would like to swear them.
MR.
FAASSE: Oh, absolutely. Your nice and comfortable sir, would you
please stand, raise your right hand.
N I C H O L A S
B Y R O N M I U C C I O, SWORN
MR.
FAASSE: For the record your full name,
please.
MR.
MIUCCIO: Nicholas Byron Miuccio.
MR.
FAASSE: Okay. One of the applicants. Is this a husband a wife situation? I’m not sure, let me look at the application.
MR.
MIUCCIO: I am married, but I don’t believe
she’s on the deed.
MR.
FAASSE: She’s not on the deed.
MR.
MIUCCIO: No.
MR.
FAASSE: Okay. Smart man -- I mean.
MR.
GREGOR: Gerri, send a copy of this tape
to Mr. Faasse’s wife.
MR.
FAASSE: That’s the advice I gave my
son. He bought the house when he was
single, and I said why give it to the woman.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Always starting trouble,
Ralph.
MR.
FAASSE: Yea, I know.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR.
FAASSE: The biggest problem is she
carries a gun.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Your wife does.
MR.
FAASSE: No, my daughter-in-law.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Oh, okay, that’s right, she’s
a police officer.
MR.
FAASSE: Yes.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Mr. Miuccio.
MR.
MIUCCIO: Yes.
MR.
CHAIRMAN: Why don’t you explain to the
Board what your seeking?
MR. MIUCCIO: I’d like to convert my family into a two family house. Actually, I asked it be a mother/daughter, I was told that you guys do not recognize mother/daughters or that’s not a classification of a house anymore. What I’d like to do is separate the utilities for a one bedroom apartment, and have the house expand, and live in the rest of the house me and my wife and my child. I’d