BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING

BOROUGH OF WANAQUE

 

MINUTES

 

March 7, 2007

 

As transcribed:

 

 

          1                     BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT

                                BOROUGH OF WANAQUE

          2

               ________________________

          3    IN THE MATTER OF:       :      TRANSCRIPT

               CASE#: 19-06 New York   :          OF

          4    SMSA Limited Partnership:      PROCEEDINGS

               d/b/a  Verizon Wireless :

          5    10 Villa Place          :

               Block 999, Lot 4        :

          6    ________________________

 

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                                      Wednesday, March 7, 2007

          8                           Municipal Building

                                      579 Ringwood Avenue

          9                           Wanaque, New Jersey

                                      Commencing at 8:25 p.m.

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               B O A R D   M E M B E R S   P R E S E N T:

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                    JACK DUNNING, Chairman

         12         WILLIAM GRYGUS, Vice-Chairman

                    FRANK COVELLI

         13         PETER HOFFMAN

                    ED LEONARD

         14         ART KONING

                    ERIC WILLSE

         15         MICHAEL O'HANLON

 

         16         GERRI MAROTTA, Board Secretary

                    WILLIAM GREGOR, Board Engineer

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               A P P E A R A N C E S:

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                     RALPH FAASSE, ESQ.

         19          Attorney for the Board

 

         20          HIERING, DUPIGNAC, STANZIONE & DUNN, ESQ.

                     BY:  LYNNE DUNN, ESQ.

         21          Attorney for the Applicant

 

         22                            IRIS LaROSA, C.S.R, RPR

 

         23

                              PRECISION REPORTING SERVICE

         24                  Certified Shorthand Reporters

                                  1178 Fairfield Road

         25                  Bridgewater, New Jersey 08807

                                    (908) 685-2227

 

                              PRECISION REPORTING SERVICE

                                     (908) 685-2227


 

 

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                                    I N D E X

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          3    WITNESS           DIRECT  CROSS  REDIRECT RECROSS

 

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               Frank Colasurdo    67

          5    William Masters    29

 

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          7    PUBLIC SPEAKERS                          PAGE

 

          8    David DaSilva............................25/47

 

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                                   E X H I B I T S

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         14    NUMBER             DESCRIPTION              PAGE

 

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               A-7      Site plan Sheet Z-1 through Z-6     28

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               A-8      Photo board                         36

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               A-9      Photo board                         38

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          1                CHAIRMAN DUNNING: We're ready for 19-06 New

 

          2    York SMSA Limited Partnership, d/b/a Verizon Wireless,

 

          3    10 Villa Place, Block 999, Lot 4, site plan, bulk and

 

          4    use variances.

 

          5                MS. DUNN:  Good evening.

 

          6                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Good evening.

 

          7                MS. DUNN:  As you probably suspect I'm not

 

          8    Warren Stilwell.

 

          9                MR. FAASSE: It was hard to tell.

 

         10                MS. DUNN:  My name is Lynne Dunn.  I'm with

 

         11    the firm of Hiering, Dupignac, Stanzione & Dunn.  I'm

 

         12    pinch hitting for Mr. Stilwell this evening.  And I

 

         13    would like to re-call Mr. Frank Colasurdo who is the

 

         14    architect who has previously testified on this matter.

 

         15                MR. FAASSE: Counsel, can we have the full

 

         16    spelling of your name and everything?

 

         17                MS. DUNN: Certainly.

 

         18                MR. FAASSE: If we can have a card.

 

         19                MS. DUNN: L-y-n-n-e D-u-n-n.

 

         20                MR. FAASE: That was the easy one, the Lynne

 

         21    with an "e" was the hard one. Thank you.

 

         22                MR. WILLSE: Could you just swing it to that

 

         23    side?  Because there's more people in the audience on

 

         24    this side this way they can see it, and I can test my

 

         25    vision.


 

 

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          1                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I think that's the

 

          2    bride's side, that's the groom's side.

 

          3                MR. FAASSE: You are re-calling this

 

          4    gentleman?

 

          5                MS. DUNN:  Frank Colasurdo.

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: He was previously sworn, wasn't

 

          7    he?

 

          8                MS. DUNN:  Yes.

 

          9                MR. FAASSE: Sir, you understand your oath

 

         10    continues when it was previously administered, which I

 

         11    believe it was January?

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  Yes.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  If you'd like to

 

         14    lift that microphone.

 

         15                MR. FAASSE: Oh, we need your name again for

 

         16    the record.

 

         17    F R A N K   C O L A S U R D O, having been previously

 

         18    sworn testified as follows:

 

         19                MR. COLASURDO: Good evening.  I guess

 

         20    tonight I'm here to explain some of the revisions to

 

         21    the site plans that were sent in a little while ago.

 

         22    Mr. Gregor has also supplied a report based on those

 

         23    revisions, and I concur with that report, what was

 

         24    written.  Up on my easel I have Sheet Z-3.  I have

 

         25    Sheet Z-3, which was last dated January 30th, '07.


 

 

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          1    This sheet depicts some of the revisions to the site

 

          2    plans.  The first and probably the most major revision

 

          3    is this sheet is reflecting the resent lot line

 

          4    adjustment that was adopted by your counsel.

 

          5                The second revision you should be aware of

 

          6    is the circulation patterns or the traffic patterns,

 

          7    essentially reversed from what we first proposed.

 

          8    Talking to Mr. Gregor we felt that reversing the

 

          9    patterns and creating a one-way exit only at the

 

         10    existing curb cut next to the recycling center made

 

         11    more sense.  I've added some parking calculations as

 

         12    requested.  As you know we are proposing to remove some

 

         13    parking spaces to install this facility, but we are

 

         14    also providing new parking spaces to replace them.  We

 

         15    do need some variances with respect to those parking

 

         16    spaces.  One of those is, we have a 24-foot dimension

 

         17    between, or as an aisleway where 25 feet is required.

 

         18    Also, we are proposing a 10 by 19 parking space is the

 

         19    size, and 10 by 20 is required, so, a foot on width and

 

         20    depth.

 

         21                I want to flip to Sheet Z-4 of site plans,

 

         22    again, this is last dated in the lower left-hand corner

 

         23    January 30th, '07.  This is another sheet that has

 

         24    received some revisions.  Most important on the sheet

 

         25    is the light detail that we're asked to provide.  It's


 

 

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          1    in the lower middle of the page.  And, basically, what

 

          2    that light is a bucket that you sink in the ground.

 

          3    Has a light fixture in it.  In this case I would

 

          4    propose a 150-watt bulb.  If that's not bright enough

 

          5    we can always adjust it, but it is a light fixture.  It

 

          6    sits inside a bucket that's below grade and it's got a

 

          7    gimble inside that you can focus the beam or the light

 

          8    directly at the flag.  And that's the changes that were

 

          9    made.

 

         10                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Counselor, how many

 

         11    parking spaces are you proposing at 10 by 19, is it

 

         12    just those seven that were numbered?

 

         13                THE WITNESS:  That's correct.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  I'm sorry?

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Engineering count.

 

         16                THE WITNESS:  Architect.

 

         17                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Bill, in the

 

         18    conversations I know there was one thing that I had

 

         19    brought up at last meeting before when they were in.

 

         20    Was any consideration at all, since your one way, angle

 

         21    the parking so that you could minimize that 24-foot

 

         22    aisle?

 

         23                THE WITNESS:  We discussed that, me and Mr.

 

         24    Gregor.  We didn't feel it was a good idea because of

 

         25    how much you have to stretch out that parking.  For the


 

 

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          1    one foot difference I didn't think it was a terrible --

 

          2                MR. FAASSE: You just indicated you and Mr.

 

          3    Gregor. You were indicating Mr. Gregor's report, that

 

          4    was the March 6th, 2007 report.

 

          5                THE WITNESS:  That's correct.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  The parking

 

          7    calculations, Bill, were driven solely by the Golden

 

          8    Agers?

 

          9                MR. GREGOR: That's correct.

 

         10                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  We're not putting any

 

         11    parking calculations in for them.

 

         12                MR. GREGOR: No.  You do need one parking

 

         13    space for use by them.  And they have excess parking

 

         14    spaces for the Golden Agers.  So I didn't even mention

 

         15    anything specifically about that since they did have

 

         16    more than adequate parking for both uses.  I might

 

         17    point out at this time there are two variances which

 

         18    did not make it into my report which are listed.

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: On the parking.

 

         20                MR. GREGOR:  On the drawings.  And they are

 

         21    the aisle width which is 24 feet where 25 is required,

 

         22    and the parking space size which is 10 by 19 versus 10

 

         23    by 24.  That was omitted from my report.  I do

 

         24    apologize for that.  I guess I got so wrapped up in

 

         25    trying to get everything else in there that I missed


 

 

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          1    those two.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Is there any -- I

 

          3    notice the proposed new grass island, which is across

 

          4    from the tower site.  Is there any other landscaping

 

          5    improvements?

 

          6                THE WITNESS:  Yes, there is.  We are

 

          7    proposing some landscape trees or shrubs around the

 

          8    existing compound.  You can see that a little bit more

 

          9    clearly on sheet Z-4.  We're proposing nine new Norway

 

         10    Spruce, 8-feet high at time of planting.

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I'm sorry.  He's

 

         12    flipping a page.  I can't hear you.

 

         13                THE WITNESS:  We are proposing nine new

 

         14    Norway Spruce at 8 feet at time of planting, and ten

 

         15    Colorado Spruce.

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  That's around the --

 

         17                THE WITNESS:  The proposed compound.

 

         18                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Nothing else on the

 

         19    property?

 

         20                THE WITNESS: That's correct.

 

         21                MR. GREGOR:  You're adding a grass island

 

         22    where there was pavement before?

 

         23                THE WITNESS:  That's correct.

 

         24                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Is there any repair

 

         25    to any of the -- I don't remember exactly the


 

 

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          1    condition.  Is there any repair to any of the curbing

 

          2    or anything in that area?

 

          3                THE WITNESS:  In the area of the new

 

          4    compound?

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Just in general on

 

          6    the site.

 

          7                THE WITNESS:  Not that I noticed.  I pretty

 

          8    much concentrated on the area of my improvements.

 

          9                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Question:  Your newly

 

         10    created parking slot one, cars backing out, is that a

 

         11    line-of-sight problem with the way you have the trees

 

         12    around the enclosure since that would be one way coming

 

         13    in?

 

         14                THE WITNESS:  That's correct.  It's one way

 

         15    coming in.  You know, I guess it really depends on the

 

         16    driver.  I mean, what I can do is I can relocate that

 

         17    parking lot number one to the other side of the

 

         18    proposed parking lot number seven, parking stall number

 

         19    seven, and we can just kind of crosshatch number one

 

         20    and say no parking.

 

         21                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  We'll leave that for the

 

         22    repair person's truck?

 

         23                THE WITNESS:  Yes.

 

         24                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  There you go, one

 

         25    personnel only.


 

 

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          1                MR. GREGOR:  Or you can indicate that as

 

          2    reserved spot for servicing the facility since there

 

          3    are additional parking spaces.

 

          4                THE WITNESS:  There you go.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Now, at the north

 

          6    side of the property, I know you said previously you

 

          7    testified that basically the improvements have been

 

          8    pretty much close at hand to the -- to your landscaping

 

          9    improvements or any kind of site improvements to the

 

         10    compound area.  Is there anything proposed at the north

 

         11    side of the property?

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  By the --

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  For example, it's

 

         14    marked on here as a gravel area that I don't know if

 

         15    you want to call it the rear exit or the unofficial

 

         16    rear exit of the property that goes onto, and I can't

 

         17    think of the name of it.

 

         18                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Belmont?

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  No.

 

         20                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  By the recycling area?

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  No, the other street

 

         22    comming by the bridge.  That's Colfax.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  That might be

 

         24    Colfax.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Okay.  Everybody


 

 

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          1    knows what I'm talking about.

 

          2                MR. FAASSE: But I don't know if the

 

          3    engineer does, that's the problem.

 

          4                THE WITNESS:  The north side of the

 

          5    property.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Follow your exit

 

          7    arrows and instead of going to the left to Villa, count

 

          8    three arrows back and you'll see where there's a cut

 

          9    and it says "gravel."

 

         10                THE WITNESS:  Yes, I see that.

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  That's a

 

         12    deteriorated area of the parking lot?

 

         13                THE WITNESS:  Yeah.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Is that considered

 

         15    an official exit, Bill?  Because we're changing the

 

         16    flow of the parking lot.  Are we recognizing it as an

 

         17    exit?  Are we leaving it as an official exit?  Are we

 

         18    closing it?

 

         19                MR. GREGOR:  I'm not following you.  Try

 

         20    that one more time.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER KONING:  There's a dirt road

 

         22    that comes out through that property.

 

         23                THE WITNESS:  I think I can help, him, Mr.

 

         24    Gregor.  Right here to the rear of the property there's

 

         25    somewhat of a semi unpaved gravel road.


 

 

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          1                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Grove.

 

          2                THE WITNESS:  I believe that's used for the

 

          3    power line company to maintain their lines back there.

 

          4                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  It's Grove.

 

          5                THE WITNESS:  There's only about four feet

 

          6    of that gravel that is actually on our property, on the

 

          7    subject property.  So beyond that we would be improving

 

          8    someone else's property.

 

          9                MR. GREGOR:  What was your question?

 

         10                MR. FAASSE: Is it an exit?

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Well, I'm not

 

         12    talking about improving someone else's property.  The

 

         13    way the property is delineated on Z-3, at that

 

         14    delineation there is a deteriated area there.  Is that

 

         15    considered an exit to the property?

 

         16                THE WITNESS:  No, that's not considered an

 

         17    exit.

 

         18                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  That's just an

 

         19    access because of power lines?

 

         20                THE WITNESS:  I believe that's just a

 

         21    gravel, a gravel access road for maintenance of those

 

         22    power lines that are back there.  If you were to drive

 

         23    into that gravel road and go about 15 feet you'd fall

 

         24    down a cliff.  It's all wooded behind there.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  No.


 

 

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          1                THE WITNESS:  Yeah, it is.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  We're not talking

 

          3    about the same spot.

 

          4                BOARD MEMBER KONING:  The brook is right

 

          5    behind that.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Where the bridge is,

 

          7    as you said, but what I'm saying is, it goes beyond

 

          8    Mullen or Grove.

 

          9                BOARD MEMBER KONING:  East Grove.

 

         10                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  But it's not a street?

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI: No, but according to

 

         12    this it's pieces that are on his property.

 

         13                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  The north path?

 

         14                THE WITNESS:  Do you want us to repave that

 

         15    up to the property line?

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Yeah.  I'd like to

 

         17    see that cleaned up somehow.

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  I think we can do that.

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I think that would

 

         20    be a good thing.  Bill, don't you think?

 

         21                MR. GREGOR:  It would certainly be an

 

         22    improvement.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  Cleaned up as a road

 

         24    or cleaned up as landscaping?

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Well, I think we're


 

 

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          1    restricted from a landscaping perspective if it's used

 

          2    as an access.

 

          3                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  But you still have

 

          4    access from East Mullen or East Grove.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Right.  But he's

 

          6    testifying tonight, and I have no reason to doubt, that

 

          7    that's used as an access of utility road of some sort.

 

          8                THE WITNESS:  That's the only thing I can

 

          9    see it being used for.

 

         10                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  The fencing on the

 

         11    recycling area shows a double-swing gate facing the

 

         12    seniors' parking lot.  How will vehicles access that?

 

         13    They'd have to come through the whole lot?

 

         14                MR. GREGOR:  How would they access the

 

         15    recycling area?

 

         16                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Right.  They'd have to

 

         17    come through the whole parking lot to get there.

 

         18                MR. GREGOR:  They'd have to come through

 

         19    the parking lot at the midpoint, yes.  At the northerly

 

         20    parking lot they'd have to enter from the southerly

 

         21    exit.  My understanding is that recycling area is

 

         22    currently not active.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Or they come in

 

         24    through the access point.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  One of the questions


 

 

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          1    that I had raised is I was asked -- I had asked some

 

          2    months ago if by chance you had an elevation of this

 

          3    site versus the site where the antenna is here next to

 

          4    the building.  Were you able to ascertain that at all?

 

          5                THE WITNESS:  Elevation.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  The height of this

 

          7    pole out front.

 

          8                MR. GRYGUS:  Not the height of the pole.

 

          9    We know what the height of the pole is.  What is the

 

         10    ground elevation out here, as opposed to the ground

 

         11    elevation at the proposed site?

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  I don't have that gentlemen,

 

         13    I'm sorry.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Because obviously

 

         15    what I was trying to ascertain is the need for the

 

         16    difference for a much taller pole at that location as

 

         17    opposed to this one, that's why I had asked what the

 

         18    actual ground elevation was.

 

         19                THE WITNESS:  I don't recall that, I

 

         20    apologize. I don't have the information.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Is completely

 

         22    different.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Refresh my memory.

 

         24    How tall is the pole out here now?

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  110.


 

 

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          1                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: The one here at Town

 

          2    Hall?

 

          3                MS. DUNN:  Outside?

 

          4                THE WITNESS:  I'm going to say it's

 

          5    80 feet, 80, 90 feet.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  It's less than a

 

          7    hundred, I think.

 

          8                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  There's another sketch

 

          9    behind that.  Is it marked?

 

         10                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: You can lift the

 

         11    acetate up.

 

         12                BOARD MEMBER KONING:  We have got no street

 

         13    access on those streets.  The streets aren't labeled.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Tell you what, looking

 

         15    at the contours on this it doesn't look like it's a

 

         16    different contour.

 

         17                THE WITNESS: I think that pole outside is

 

         18    actually 105.

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I thought you said

 

         20    somewhere between 105 and 110.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: There's one contour

 

         22    line that's going from Town Hall out to Villa Place.

 

         23    So it looks like it's close.

 

         24                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  This might be a

 

         25    minor point, but I'm just trying to think of the


 

 

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          1    consistency of the property.  And would you consider --

 

          2    is it part of your plan to -- you're aligning the new

 

          3    parking spaces, delineating new parking spaces. You're

 

          4    delineating arrows to mark the flow of the site with

 

          5    respect to traffic and parking?

 

          6                THE WITNESS:  Actually those arrows were

 

          7    just for the Board's benefit.  Back to Sheet Z-3, what

 

          8    we're proposing to do is to install two signs at that

 

          9    existing curb cut by the recycling center.  This sign

 

         10    is going to say "exit only."

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Okay.  And you would

 

         12    on the south side put "enter only?"

 

         13                THE WITNESS:  No, that's stating exit and

 

         14    enter.

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Oh, that's a

 

         16    two-way?

 

         17                THE WITNESS:  That's correct.

 

         18                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  The question is, how to

 

         19    keep it one way in here.

 

         20                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Yes.  I think you'd

 

         21    have to have some kind of a sign on either side of the

 

         22    berm here facing the other way "do not enter."

 

         23                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  From the closure that's

 

         24    where you need some directional signal.

 

         25                THE WITNESS:  I can work that out with Mr.


 

 

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          1    Gregor.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  And your enclosure

 

          3    the same "do not enter" for somebody.  But I would

 

          4    think, Bill, clearly we want just a couple of arrows on

 

          5    the ground indicating traffic flow.

 

          6                MR. GREGOR:  What I would recommend is --

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Not as many arrows

 

          8    as he has on the drawing.

 

          9                MR. GREGOR:  Arrows on the ground are great

 

         10    for the first year or two.  And then what I would

 

         11    recommend is where you have the exit-only sign in the

 

         12    back of that do-not-enter sign, and have a sign right

 

         13    near the exit showing a one way which would show people

 

         14    that that's the way out for that entrance.  That one

 

         15    way would be perpendicular to Villa Place.

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  But the problem is,

 

         17    Bill, because the south entrance is in and out what's

 

         18    to stop somebody from coming in and park in space two,

 

         19    back it out and proceed south and going out, unless you

 

         20    have some kind of signage there where that necks down

 

         21    to 15 feet.

 

         22                MR. GREGOR:  All right. There you would

 

         23    have the do-not-enter sign or one-way sign or both.

 

         24                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Something.  It could

 

         25    be "one way" on one side, and "do not enter" on the


 

 

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          1    other.

 

          2                MR. GREGOR:  That would be a very good

 

          3    idea.  So in that location we should have a one-way

 

          4    sign with a do-not-enter sign on that island.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Right.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Is there any

 

          7    proposal to change any of the lighting on the site

 

          8    other than the lights that you talked about with

 

          9    respect to the pole, the flag on the pole?

 

         10                THE WITNESS:  There's only one other light

 

         11    and that's located on the equipment shelter.  It's a

 

         12    typical flood light that you would find above your

 

         13    garage door.  It's on a photocell motion sensor and

 

         14    it's there if the technician has to come out there at

 

         15    night, light goies on as you're standing on the stoop

 

         16    so he can open up the lock and get into the equipment

 

         17    room.

 

         18                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: But it's on a motion

 

         19    sensor?

 

         20                THE WITNESS:  That's correct.  And

 

         21    photocell.

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: But it would only come

 

         23    on at night in motion?

 

         24                THE WITNESS:  Correct.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Frank, I ask the


 

 

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          1    question, because that's a very dark area back there.

 

          2    And since we're changing the traffic flow of the lot

 

          3    people not familiar or people just not familiar or

 

          4    looking for direction it's a very dark lot.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Just for the security

 

          6    of the structure.

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Security of the

 

          8    structure, they've got a chain-link fence around it.

 

          9                Yeah, but you start throwing too much light

 

         10    down there and the neighbors are going to be up at

 

         11    night from the light on the street.

 

         12                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Well, perhaps the

 

         13    lighting can be put on switches or timers such that

 

         14    when the facility is being used for a function, in

 

         15    other words that's when there's a lot of traffic and a

 

         16    lot of activity in the lot, people are walking through

 

         17    the lot, people are pulling in and out of spots, people

 

         18    are trying to figure out what direction to go in when

 

         19    they pull out of the spot.  So there's a different flow

 

         20    of the lot.  I'm not concerned about the lot.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Oh, so vandals are

 

         22    okay?

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Well, that's Bruce's

 

         24    issue.  Bruce is looking for the vandals, I'm looking

 

         25    for people being safe in a facility.


 

 

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          1                MR. GREGOR:  What your concern is that now

 

          2    that the parking spaces for the facility are put

 

          3    further away from the facility you want additional

 

          4    lighting for the safety of the facility.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI: That, and we have an

 

          6    islands now.  We have a change in traffic.  We have got

 

          7    a lot going on on that lot that wasn't there

 

          8    previously.

 

          9                MR. GREGOR:  Would it be possible to add a

 

         10    one pole lighting in that area to illuminate the

 

         11    parking area?

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  If you'd like we can take

 

         13    advantage of that grass island and put a light on that.

 

         14    It will illuminate the new one-way-, do-not-enter sign,

 

         15    as well as the new parking spaces.

 

         16                MR. GREGOR:  Face the light away from the

 

         17    residences towards the rear.

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  Correct.  I can work that all

 

         19    out with Mr. Gregor.

 

         20                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  That would be

 

         21    helpful.

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  One last thing and

 

         23    then I'll be quiet.  I reserve my right, Counsel,

 

         24    but -- and that would be since we're doing this, this

 

         25    one's a little bit more of an aesthetic issue, but


 

 

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          1    since we are striping new parking spaces I guess we're

 

          2    restriping some existing spots that are to the west of

 

          3    the compound?

 

          4                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Destriping.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Or destriping.

 

          6    Would you consent to restriping all of the parking

 

          7    places within the lot for uniformity?

 

          8                THE WITNESS:  Yes, I can do that for you.

 

          9                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I have no further

 

         10    questions.

 

         11                THE WITNESS:  And that is going to be on

 

         12    the northern parking lot, on the northern side of the

 

         13    building where all activities are?

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Yeah, I was

 

         15    referring to that.  Unless you were offering a

 

         16    benevolent thing by bringing up the south.

 

         17                THE WITNESS:  I was referring to the north

 

         18    and south.

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I was just asking

 

         20    for clarification.

 

         21                MS. DUNN:  You've got your last one.

 

         22                MR. FAASSE: Oh, she's tough.

 

         23                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  We have got reference

 

         24    number five, consideration for construction fence along

 

         25    river right-of-way which is above the -- to the west of


 

 

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          1    the recycling center.

 

          2                THE WITNESS:  Can you repeat that again,

 

          3    please?

 

          4                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  You've got a note on

 

          5    your drawing.

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: Upper portion.

 

          7                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Includes consideration

 

          8    for construction of a fence along the easterly boundary

 

          9    of Villa Place that's being attended, and said fence be

 

         10    for the prevention of access by children to the tract

 

         11    of the Erie Railroad Company.

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  Yes, sir.  That's a reference

 

         13    to the site survey that was prepared.  That was

 

         14    actually found in one of the deeds. And the site

 

         15    surveyor who prepared it, the site plan, site survey

 

         16    for me, as well as the counsel with the lot line

 

         17    adjustment noted that on his plan as part of his work.

 

         18                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Okay.  So that fence is

 

         19    existing?

 

         20                THE WITNESS:  There is a fence around the

 

         21    recycling center.

 

         22                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  I don't think your

 

         23    arrow's pointing to that, is it?

 

         24                THE WITNESS:  No, there's a fence around

 

         25    the recycling center.  It references for consideration,


 

 

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          1    it's a consideration for the construction of a fence

 

          2    along the eastern boundary of Villa Place to prevent

 

          3    access by children.  I guess at one time maybe the

 

          4    recycling center was larger or smaller, but it's just

 

          5    part of the old deeds.  It just keeps getting

 

          6    transferred and transferred at the time of the survey.

 

          7                MR. GREGOR:  I believe the fence, it was

 

          8    there when it was an active railroad site.

 

          9                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Bill, on your report,

 

         10    Item 14, wouldn't that be a bulk?

 

         11                THE WITNESS:  No, the height.

 

         12                MR. GREGOR:  No, the height exceeds ten

 

         13    percent of the submitted height.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  So it's two use

 

         15    variances.

 

         16                MR. GREGOR:  Yes.  They're permitted under

 

         17    a bulk variance under ten percent or some feet.

 

         18                MR. FAASSE: But as soon as you exceed the

 

         19    ten percent then it goes to a use.

 

         20                MR. GREGOR:  Then it goes to a use.

 

         21                MR. FAASSE: That was the ordinance.  They

 

         22    didn't know they needed a height variance.  It wasn't

 

         23    enough to make a use variance, so they were brought

 

         24    here.

 

         25                Hey, I'm just telling you what the rule is.


 

 

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          1    I'm not saying I agree with it.

 

          2                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  I got you.

 

          3                Any other questions, gentlemen?

 

          4                MS. DUNN:  We have Mr. Masters, the

 

          5    planner, to testify.

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: Of course.  So open up.

 

          7                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Let's open it up to the

 

          8    public.  Does anyone have any questions regarding the

 

          9    engineer?

 

         10                MR. FAASSE: He's an engineer?

 

         11                MR. GREGOR:  Architect.

 

         12                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Wasn't he the architect?

 

         13    I'm sorry.  You're the architect.

 

         14                THE WITNESS:  I'm an architect.

 

         15                MR. FAASSE: Wait.  Where am I?

 

         16                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  It says architect.  Your

 

         17    name?

 

         18                MR. DaSILVA: Dave DaSilva, 108 Monroe

 

         19    Street.  How far is the tower and the building from the

 

         20    closest house?

 

         21                THE WITNESS:  From the closest house?  The

 

         22    closest residence to the center of the proposed

 

         23    compound is 148 feet 6 inches.  So roughly around

 

         24    there.  Is there any concern from your standpoint about

 

         25    noise from the generator, the AC or any other equipment


 

 

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          1    interfering with those residences?

 

          2                THE WITNESS:  Interfering with those

 

          3    residences?  No.  My client will comply with all New

 

          4    Jersey Department of Environmental Protection noise

 

          5    standards.  If there's a problem we have ways of

 

          6    concealing the noise with special acoustic baffles over

 

          7    the intake, and exhaust vents of the shelter.  We're

 

          8    also putting up a board-on-board fence that should

 

          9    block some of the sounds from escaping the property.

 

         10                MR. DaSILVA:  I'm a little concerned about

 

         11    the lighting you're proposing for the flag.  150 watts

 

         12    doesn't seem like it's going to reach up 135 feet.  Did

 

         13    you do any research for other facilities or places that

 

         14    have lighting?  I know the Statute of Liberty is about

 

         15    16 feet taller.  Somehow I believe thery're not using

 

         16    one 150-foot light to be able to see that.  Do you have

 

         17    any concerns about not lighting the flag properly?  We

 

         18    just had a problem with this pole out here being

 

         19    smaller not being lit properly.

 

         20                THE WITNESS:  No.  Actually, I'd like to

 

         21    start with 150.  If that doesn't work we can bump that

 

         22    up.  But the minimum standard I have to meet is you

 

         23    have to be able to make a distinction between the stars

 

         24    and stripes, that's it.  If you wanted this to be lit

 

         25    like a monumental-type of pole and flag, well, I would


 

 

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          1    probably go with a higher pole, maybe a 500-watt.  But

 

          2    I'd like to start at 150, see if I can meet the Federal

 

          3    standards, and if not I'll go to maybe 250 and keep

 

          4    experimenting.

 

          5                MR. DaSILVA: In reference to the flag, the

 

          6    rope or however you're proposing holding the flag up

 

          7    there to lower it and raise it, did you do any research

 

          8    about how that's not going to blow around in the wind

 

          9    135 feet in the air?

 

         10                THE WITNESS:  First, they have a lanyard on

 

         11    top that keeps the flag position so that doesn't wrap

 

         12    around.  And it's tethered at the bottom so they tie it

 

         13    down tight.

 

         14                MR. DaSILVA: Because after the last meeting

 

         15    I went out to this pole here and it was windy at night

 

         16    and it was banging around like crazy.

 

         17                THE WITNESS:  Was it tethered down?

 

         18                MR. DaSILVA: I believe so.  We can go look

 

         19    when we get outside, but it was making a lot of noise.

 

         20                THE WITNESS:  On a windy day you might hear

 

         21    the rope wrapping a little bit.  It's a flagpole.

 

         22                MR. DaSILVA: Okay.  Thanks.

 

         23                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Anyone else in the

 

         24    public have any questions of the architect?  Seeing

 

         25    none or hearing none.  We'll close the public portion.


 

 

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          1                MS. DUNN:  Thank you.  William F. Masters,

 

          2    Jr., Professional Planner, is our next witness.

 

          3                Do you wish me to mark these exhibits?

 

          4                MR. FAASSE: Yes.  I guess that's new,

 

          5    right?

 

          6                MS. DUNN:  I assume you did not want Mr.

 

          7    Colasurdo's revised plans marked, is that correct?

 

          8                MR. FAASSE: The Chairman was just saying we

 

          9    should.

 

         10                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: They're the same as we

 

         11    had submitted.

 

         12                MR. FAASSE: It's the same ones.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  As we have.

 

         14                MS. DUNN:  I will mark as a joint exhibit

 

         15    then this evening as A-7.

 

         16                MR. FAASSE: How many pages is that?

 

         17                MS. DUNN:  This is Sheet Z-1 through six.

 

         18                (Whereupon, A-7, site plan Sheet Z-1

 

         19    through Z-6, was received and marked in evidence.)

 

         20                MR. GREGOR:  The revision dates will come

 

         21    out.

 

         22                MR. FAASSE: Yes.

 

         23                MS. DUNN:  Mr. Masters.  Oh, I'm sorry, you

 

         24    haven't been sworn.

 

         25                MR. MASTERS: No, I have not.


 

 

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          1                MR. FAASSE: Are you ready to start with

 

          2    him?

 

          3                MS. DUNN:  Sure.

 

          4                MR. FAASSE: Give us your business address.

 

          5    W I L L I A M   F.   M A S T E R S, J. R., P.P., 19

 

          6    Ironwood Drive, Morris Plains, New Jersey, having been

 

          7    duly sworn testifies as follows:

 

          8    DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MS. DUNN:

 

          9          Q.    Could you give the Board the benefit of

 

         10    your educational and professional background, please?

 

         11          A.    Yes.  I have a bachelor of science degree

 

         12    in landscape architecture from Rutgers University. I'm

 

         13    a licensed professional planner in the state of New

 

         14    Jersey.  I've been licensed since -- continuously since

 

         15    1981.  I was the planning director for the township of

 

         16    Parsippany Troy Hills in Morris County for 13 years.

 

         17    For the past 13 years I've been involved in my own

 

         18    private consulting practice, specializing in wireless

 

         19    telecommunications applications.  I previously

 

         20    testified before numerous Planning Boards and Zoning

 

         21    Boards of Adjustment throughout the state of New Jersey

 

         22    as an expert in the field of land use planning, again,

 

         23    focusing on applications pertaining to wireless

 

         24    telecommunications facilities.

 

         25                MR. FAASSE: Do you happen to know your


 

 

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          1    license number with the state of New Jersey?

 

          2                THE WITNESS:  2363.

 

          3                MR. FAASSE: And that does continue in good

 

          4    force and effect through tonight?

 

          5                THE WITNESS:  Correct.

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: I always ask that.  I had a

 

          7    surveyor that didn't pay the fee.

 

          8                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Okay.

 

          9                MR. FAASSE: Any questions on his expertise?

 

         10                Proceed, Counsel.

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI: Do you accept that?

 

         12                MR. GREGOR:  I know him.

 

         13                MR. FAASSE: Then you've got to step down.

 

         14    Go sit down in the audience.

 

         15    BY MS. DUNN:

 

         16          Q.    Mr. Masters, could you please discuss the

 

         17    proposed improvements from a professional planning

 

         18    standpoint?

 

         19          A.    Yes. The application that's before the

 

         20    Board this evening is for a wireless telecommunications

 

         21    facility which features a 135-foot tall flagpole.  The

 

         22    subject property which is the subject of the

 

         23    application is situated in -- is actually situated in a

 

         24    split zone.  A portion of the parcel is in the "B"

 

         25    business district.  Another portion of the parcel is in


 

 

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          1    the AAH, active adult housing district.  The entire

 

          2    extent of the proposed wireless telecommunications

 

          3    facility itself is in the AAH Zone district.

 

          4                We have here an existing undersized lot.

 

          5    The minimum lot area requirement in the AAH Zone

 

          6    district is 400 acres.  The existing parcel is 1.869

 

          7    acres, with the right-of-way dedication which is part

 

          8    of the application, the result in lot area is 1.374

 

          9    acres, difference of approximately a half an acre.

 

         10                The effect of the right-of-way dedication

 

         11    also has an impact on some of the existing setbacks as

 

         12    far as the existing building is concerned, specifically

 

         13    the front yard setback.  As far as the variances

 

         14    pertaining to the wireless telecommunications facility

 

         15    itself the primary variance relief that's being sought

 

         16    here this evening would be use variance relief of the

 

         17    D-1 variety, owing to the fact that the proposed use is

 

         18    not a permitted use in either the AAH or B Zone

 

         19    districts.

 

         20                Also, use variance relief of the D-6

 

         21    variety, which is actually a height variance, owing to

 

         22    the nature of the height variance relief that's sought

 

         23    here, the fact that the maximum permitted height in the

 

         24    AAH Zone is 85 feet, the proposed height of the

 

         25    flagpole is 135 feet, owing to the fact that it exceeds


 

 

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          1    the permitted height by more than 10 feet or 10 percent

 

          2    of the permitted height in the zone district, the type

 

          3    of the height variance relief that's sought here is a

 

          4    D-6 height variance.

 

          5                Also, bulk variance relief relative to the

 

          6    location of the pole, as well as the equipment building

 

          7    or shelter to the rear property line, the minimum

 

          8    setback requirement is 100 feet to the rear property

 

          9    line, the proposed setback of the equipment is 6.6

 

         10    feet.  The monopole or flagpole 10.66 feet both

 

         11    triggering rear yard setback variances.  I would note

 

         12    that the portion of the lot after the right-of-way

 

         13    dedication where the proposed facility is to be located

 

         14    is -- has a total lot depth of approximately 80 feet.

 

         15    The parcel, the subject parcel at its widest depth is

 

         16    approximately 106 feet.  So it would be virtually

 

         17    impossible to meet that rear yard setback requirement

 

         18    anywhere on the subject property.

 

         19                In terms of the use variance, the D-1 and

 

         20    D-6 height variance, the applicant's burden of proof

 

         21    relative to those variances is to satisfy both the

 

         22    positive criteria or special reasons criteria, as well

 

         23    as the negative criteria.  The positive criteria burden

 

         24    that the applicant must satisfy is to show that the

 

         25    site is a site that is particularly suited for a


 

 

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          1    wireless telecommunications facility.  I would note

 

          2    that the applicant here, Verizon Wireless, has secured

 

          3    the requisite license from the Federal Communications

 

          4    Commission.  The New Jersey Supreme Court has found

 

          5    that generally the issuance of an FCC license should

 

          6    suffice for a carrier to establish that the use serves

 

          7    the general welfare.  And Verizon Wireless has secured

 

          8    that license from the FCC.

 

          9                In terms of the particular suitability

 

         10    criteria I would submit to the Board that the site,

 

         11    which is the subject of this application is a site that

 

         12    is particularly suited for a wireless

 

         13    telecommunications facility for several reasons:

 

         14    First, you've already heard testimony from the

 

         15    applicant's radio frequency engineer that the site is

 

         16    ideally situated from a technical perspective to meet

 

         17    the applicant's coverage objective in terms of filling

 

         18    the existing gap or defficiency in the coverage area

 

         19    for Verizon Wireless for this particular area of the

 

         20    Borough of Wanaque.  So the first particular

 

         21    suitability criteria would be that the subject site

 

         22    meets the technical objective.  It is an ideal location

 

         23    in terms of its relationship to the surrounding sites,

 

         24    surrounding Verizon Wireless sites.

 

         25                Secondly, the subject site is situated


 

 

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          1    proximate to major traffic corridors which are primary

 

          2    generators of wireless telecommunication service, in

 

          3    this case specifically Ringwood Avenue.

 

          4                Third, we have here an existing developed

 

          5    site, such that the use can be located without

 

          6    producing a significant impact upon the environment,

 

          7    nor posing a substantial conflict with the existing use

 

          8    of the property.  Specifically, there is no increase in

 

          9    the existing impervious coverage.  Actually, as a

 

         10    result of the right-of-way dedication and the grassed

 

         11    area that's being proposed here, we're actually ending

 

         12    up here with a slight decrease in the overall

 

         13    impervious coverage on the site.

 

         14                The site involves no tree removal.  The

 

         15    application, the proposed facility will utilize

 

         16    existing access to the proposed facility.  And we have

 

         17    sufficient existing off-street parking to service the

 

         18    proposed facility.  Another characteristic of this site

 

         19    which contributes to its particular suitability is that

 

         20    we have a willing landlord which provides a revenue

 

         21    source in this particular case to several nonprofit

 

         22    civic organizations within the Borough of Wanaque,

 

         23    specifically the Golden Agers, the American Legion and

 

         24    the VFW.  And the fact that we're proposing here an

 

         25    alternate antenna support structure, a flagpole


 

 

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          1    monopole in a location which a flagpole makes sense

 

          2    from a land use planning perspective where it's being

 

          3    proposed.

 

          4                So it would be my conclusion that because

 

          5    of all of those reasons we have here a site that is

 

          6    particularly suited for a wireless telecommunications

 

          7    facility.  And, again, we have a wireless

 

          8    telecommunications carrier who has secured the required

 

          9    license from the Federal Communications Commission.

 

         10                In addition to the positive criteria or

 

         11    special reasons criteria, it is also the applicant's

 

         12    burden of proof to satisfy the negative criteria.  And

 

         13    in terms of the negative criteria the process or

 

         14    procedure which has been established by, again, by the

 

         15    New Jersey Supreme Court for the negative criteria

 

         16    analysis for wireless telecommunications facilities is

 

         17    the Sica balancing test.  And while the Courts have

 

         18    stopped short of declaring these uses inherently

 

         19    beneficial they have, however, adopted or embraced the

 

         20    negative criteria analysis that was previously utilized

 

         21    for inherently beneficial uses, that being the Sica

 

         22    balancing test.

 

         23                The four-first step balancing test, the

 

         24    first step being that the Board should identify the

 

         25    public interest at stake, I would submit to the Board


 

 

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          1    that the public interest at stake with regard to

 

          2    wireless telecommunications facilities is significant.

 

          3    The provision of modern state-of-the-art wireless

 

          4    telecommunications provides a direct benefit to the

 

          5    general public.

 

          6                Second step in the Sica balancing test is

 

          7    that the Board should identify the detrimental effect

 

          8    that will ensue from the grant of the variance relief.

 

          9    I would remind the Board that we're dealing here with

 

         10    an unmanned, unoccupied facility, one that is, however,

 

         11    routinely visited once every four to six weeks for

 

         12    routine maintenance service, one that is also

 

         13    continuously monitored on a 24-hour-a-day,

 

         14    seven-day-a-week basis from a remote monitoring

 

         15    facility.

 

         16                The primary focus from a planning

 

         17    perspective with regard to the potential detrimental

 

         18    effect for these types of uses is visual impact.  And

 

         19    in that regard I have prepared a couple of exhibits of

 

         20    photo simulations depicting what the proposed facility

 

         21    would look like from various vantage points within the

 

         22    municipality.

 

         23          Q.    The first one is A-8?

 

         24                (Whereupon, A-8, photo board, was received

 

         25    and marked in evidence.)


 

 

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          1          A.    A-8 is a photo Board consisting of eight

 

          2    colored photographs.  The photographs on A-8 were taken

 

          3    by myself.  The four photographs on the left side of

 

          4    A-8 are photographs of the existing site.  And in each

 

          5    one of the four photographs on the left side of A-8 you

 

          6    will see a small red circular object generally in the

 

          7    center portion of the photograph.  That is a four-foot

 

          8    diameter red helium balloon that was put up at the

 

          9    height of the proposed pole, in this case 135 feet.

 

         10    This balloon test was conducted on January the 18th of

 

         11    this year.  It was conducted by myself.  It was done at

 

         12    a time when the wind conditions were very calm.  What I

 

         13    do is I monitor the -- actually, monitor the wind

 

         14    conditions daily before I pick a day to go out and do

 

         15    such a test.  And I also usually do it early in the

 

         16    morning when the wind conditions are the calmest.

 

         17                The four photographs on the right side of

 

         18    A-8 are computer enhanced simulated renderings of a

 

         19    proposed 135-foot flagpole.  The first series of

 

         20    photographs at the top of A-8 this is a view from

 

         21    Mullen Avenue in front of number 17 looking generally

 

         22    in a southerly direction.  The photograph in the upper

 

         23    left-hand corner we see the balloon in the center

 

         24    portion of the photograph.  In the corresponding photo

 

         25    simulation in the upper right-hand corner is the photo


 

 

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          1    simulation of the proposed flagpole.

 

          2                The next series of photographs, this is a

 

          3    view from Grove Street between number 54 and number 56

 

          4    Grove Street.  This would be looking generally in a

 

          5    westerly direction.  The balloon is visible in the

 

          6    center portion of the photograph.  I would note that

 

          7    this particular balloon test was conducted at a time of

 

          8    the season, of course, where there are no leaves on the

 

          9    trees, which would be a worst-case scenario in terms of

 

         10    the potential visual impact.  The corresponding photo

 

         11    simulation to the right we see the proposed flagpole.

 

         12                The third series of photographs on A-8 this

 

         13    is a view from Rhinesmith Avenue looking generally in

 

         14    an easterly direction taken from number 32 Rhinesmith.

 

         15    The corresonding photo simulation to the right with the

 

         16    proposed flagpole monopole.  And the last series of

 

         17    photographs at the bottom of A-8 is a view from

 

         18    Railroad Avenue at Villa Place.  The photograph at the

 

         19    lower left-hand corner with the balloon, the photo

 

         20    simulation in the lower right-hand corner.  If the

 

         21    Board wishes I can pass this exhibit up while I

 

         22    describe the next exhibit.

 

         23                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Please.

 

         24                THE WITNESS:  Next photo board, Exhibit

 

         25    A-9.


 

 

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          1                (Whereupon, A-9, photo board, was received

 

          2    and marked in evidence.)

 

          3                THE WITNESS:  Same format as Exhibit A-8.

 

          4    Four photographs on the left side of A-9.  We see the

 

          5    balloon in the photograph.  The four photographs on the

 

          6    right side are photo simulations with the flagpole

 

          7    monopole superimposed.  The first series of photographs

 

          8    at the top of A-9.  This is a view from directly across

 

          9    the street from the subject installation from Erie

 

         10    Avenue and Villa Place.  The corresponding photo

 

         11    simulation in the upper right-hand corner.

 

         12                The next series of photographs is a view

 

         13    from Erie Avenue a little further west of the site in

 

         14    front of number 11 Erie Avenue.  The corresponding

 

         15    photo simulation to the right with the proposed

 

         16    flagpole monopole.

 

         17                The third set of photographs a view from

 

         18    Ivy Court at the Kenwood Commons complex looking in a

 

         19    northerly direction.  The corresponding photo

 

         20    simulation to the right of the proposed flagpole

 

         21    monopole.  And the last series of photographs at the

 

         22    lower portion of A-9, a view from Ringwood Avenue at

 

         23    Lions Avenue.  The last photo simulation in the lower

 

         24    right-hand corner with the proposed flagpole monopole.

 

         25                The third step in the Sica balancing test


 

 

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          1    is that in some situations the local Board may reduce

 

          2    the detrimental effect by imposing reasonable

 

          3    conditions on the use.  Several conditions were

 

          4    discussed during Mr. Colasurdo's testimony which are --

 

          5    which would be reasonable conditions that the Board

 

          6    might consider imposing on this particular application.

 

          7    One that has been discussed an ongoing condition during

 

          8    the course of this application was the right-of-way

 

          9    dedication, which my understanding has been

 

         10    accomplished.

 

         11                Secondly, the pavement improvement that was

 

         12    discussed this evening would be a reasonable condition

 

         13    that the Board might impose on the application.  The

 

         14    requirement for directional signage and striping, a

 

         15    reasonable condition.  Also, the restriping of the

 

         16    parking spaces would be a reasonable condition.  And,

 

         17    of course, a requirement that the antenna support

 

         18    structure in this case be an alternative structure,

 

         19    namely, the flagpole as a means of reducing the visual

 

         20    impact of the proposed wireless telecommunications

 

         21    facility, all reasonable conditions that the Board

 

         22    might consider imposing on the application.

 

         23                The fourth and final step in the Sica

 

         24    balancing test is that the Board should then weigh the

 

         25    positive and the negative criteria and determine


 

 

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          1    whether on balance the grant of the variance relief

 

          2    would cause a substantial detriment to the public good.

 

          3    I would submit to the Board in considering the positive

 

          4    benefits of wireless telecommunications, the fact that

 

          5    the carrier has secured the requisite license from the

 

          6    Federal Communications Commission, the fact that the

 

          7    applicant here is proposing a flagpole monopole in

 

          8    order to conceal the antennas in an alternate-type

 

          9    structure I believe that this is an application in

 

         10    which the positive far outweighs the negative.  And as

 

         11    such the scale tips in favor of the positive and

 

         12    satisfies the Sica balancing test.

 

         13                I would note that during the course of the

 

         14    radio frequency expert's testimony it was established

 

         15    that the proposed height was the minimum height

 

         16    necessary to achieve the coverage objective for

 

         17    wireless -- for Verizon Wireless relative to the D-6

 

         18    height variance relief that is sought here in

 

         19    conjunction with the use variance.  I would submit that

 

         20    Verizon Wireless has submitted compelling evidence that

 

         21    supports the conclusion that this is a site that is

 

         22    particularly suited for a wireless telecommunications

 

         23    facility.  The application does not pose substantial

 

         24    detriment to adjacent properties, nor does the

 

         25    application cause substantial impairment to the intent


 

 

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          1    and purpose of the comprehensive zone plan and zoning

 

          2    ordinance of the Borough of Wanaque.

 

          3                MS. DUNN:  Any questions of Mr. Masters?

 

          4                MR. FAASSE: Oh, of course.

 

          5                I want to start, because it's a legal

 

          6    question.  Mr. Masters, you indicated two use variances

 

          7    that are involved.  Is there not a third one for

 

          8    allowing two structures or two uses on a lot?  I mean,

 

          9    in a "B" Zone we permit -- excuse me, in a commercial

 

         10    residential lot, but this is neither of these.  Well,

 

         11    this particular zone, the AAH does not permit two uses.

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  In view of the fact that it's

 

         13    technically a residential zone I would say that, yes,

 

         14    that we would need a use variance for maintaining two

 

         15    principal uses on a single lot.

 

         16                MR. FAASSE: And would this facility also

 

         17    qualify in terms of the land use as a structure?

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  Definitely.

 

         19                MR. FAASSE: Okay.  I'm sorry.

 

         20                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  He answered your

 

         21    question.  So there's a third use.

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  Can we ask questions

 

         23    now?  Are you finished?

 

         24                MR. FAASSE: Yes, I'm done.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  As the location of


 

 

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          1    the tower and the support building did you consider any

 

          2    other locations on the lot?

 

          3                THE WITNESS:  Considered them.  It was my

 

          4    understanding that this was the location that was

 

          5    desired by the landlord.  I did look at an alternate

 

          6    location further to the south.  However, it would have

 

          7    been closer to the residential building on the corner

 

          8    of railroad and Villa Place, and it was my

 

          9    understanding that that particular location was not

 

         10    desirable from the landlord's perspective, so it was

 

         11    pretty much my understanding that this was the location

 

         12    that was desired by the landlord.

 

         13                MR. GREGOR:  Could you tell us what zone

 

         14    that alternate location that you just discussed was in?

 

         15                THE WITNESS:  It would have actually been

 

         16    split.  The flagpole would have been in the B Zone, and

 

         17    the equipment, the radio equipment, the compound area

 

         18    would have been in the AAH Zone.

 

         19                MR. GREGOR:  Similar to what we have here

 

         20    only in a split zone?

 

         21                THE WITNESS:  Correct.

 

         22                MR. GREGOR:  Then you --

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  Where on-site was

 

         24    that?

 

         25                THE WITNESS:  It was in front of the


 

 

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          1    existing Golden Agers' building.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  In the front of --

 

          3                THE WITNESS:  The flagpole would have been

 

          4    in the front of the building, which would have actually

 

          5    put it closer to Villa Place than the present location.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  How did you determine

 

          7    the locations that you did your --

 

          8                MR. FAASSE: Photo shoot?

 

          9                THE WITNESS:  Photo simulations?  From

 

         10    where the balloon was most visible.  I generally try to

 

         11    get more or less a 360 degree area that I shoot

 

         12    north-south, east and west.  I also usually will look

 

         13    to see where the visibility is from residential,

 

         14    off-site residential uses, which is what I try to

 

         15    achieve here as well.

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  And you didn't take a

 

         17    look at that at all from any higher elevations?

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  Higher?  No.

 

         19                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Okay.  Any questions,

 

         20    gentlemen?

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: I have a question,

 

         22    but it's more for the architect.

 

         23                MR. FAASSE: We'll have to call him back up,

 

         24    unless there's something you need to question Mr.

 

         25    Masters.


 

 

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          1                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: Well, the question

 

          2    was, I think the recycling of the generator when the

 

          3    technician comes every six or eight weeks does he cycle

 

          4    the generator at that time?

 

          5    F R A N K   C O L A S U R D O, having been previously

 

          6    sworn testifies as follows:

 

          7                THE WITNESS:  No.  The technician that

 

          8    comes out once approximately every four to six weeks is

 

          9    to do general preventive maintenance type work.

 

         10                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: Well, will the

 

         11    generator be cycled?  I'm sure they do the test.

 

         12                THE WITNESS:  I believe that's done on a

 

         13    weekly basis or bi-weekly basis.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  They usually

 

         15    self-test and they'll start and run for 5, 10 minutes.

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: That was the

 

         17    question.  How long will it run?

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  That's probably better

 

         19    answered by the architect.

 

         20                MR. FAASSE: Well, no, let's not go back and

 

         21    forth.  Save that.

 

         22                We'll try and keep a record.  Mr. Masters,

 

         23    can you relate for the Board the height of this

 

         24    particular structure compared to, you know, something

 

         25    that everyone knows?  I mean, I know there's a cell


 

 

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          1    tower antenna right off of 208 that's camouflaged as a

 

          2    tree.  I don't know how high that is.  We think we said

 

          3    this one was 85 feet.

 

          4                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  105.

 

          5                THE WITNESS:  105.

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: I mean, is there something else

 

          7    that you can point to that says --

 

          8                THE WITNESS:  Not really.  This is probably

 

          9    the best example out front here.  Number one, it's a

 

         10    flagpole which is, you know, a similar type structure

 

         11    that's being proposed here.  It's not quite as tall,

 

         12    but it's within 30 feet of the height of this proposed

 

         13    structure.

 

         14                MR. FAASSE: And when you took your photos

 

         15    and put the balloon up you never invited any of the

 

         16    public or any of the Borough officials there to witness

 

         17    it.

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  Did not, no.  Again, it's a

 

         19    situation where it's dependent upon the weather

 

         20    conditions.  The difficulty in posting a balloon event

 

         21    for a date certain is --

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Quick Chek does it

 

         23    every year.

 

         24                THE WITNESS:  Is the lack of, you know,

 

         25    knowledge of what the wind is going to be on that


 

 

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          1    particular day.  So I usually find out the day before

 

          2    and I go out early the following morning.

 

          3                MR. FAASSE: Any other questions for Mr.

 

          4    Masters?  If not, before we open up to the public I

 

          5    think we ought to allow the public to look at these

 

          6    photos.

 

          7                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  We'll take five minutes.

 

          8                MR. FAASSE: We'll put those photos out to

 

          9    allow the public to look at them prior to asking any

 

         10    questions.

 

         11                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  We'll take a five minute

 

         12    break.

 

         13                (Time is 9:10 p.m.)

 

         14                (Back on the record at 9:20 p.m.)

 

         15                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Let's reflect everyone

 

         16    is present that was present before the break.

 

         17                MR. FAASSE: Everyone is present that was

 

         18    here.

 

         19                MR. FAASSE: Anyone from the public have any

 

         20    questions for Mr. Masters?

 

         21                MR. DaSILVA: Dave DaSilva, 108 Monroe

 

         22    Street.  In reference to the positive and negative

 

         23    criteria, what does having an FCC license have to do

 

         24    with the use of a site?

 

         25                THE WITNESS:  The courts in New Jersey have


 

 

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          1    stated in the various decisions that they've rendered

 

          2    pertaineing to wireless telecommunications facilities

 

          3    that the issuance of an FCC license should suffice for

 

          4    a carrier to establish the positive criteria, to serve

 

          5    the general welfare which goes to the issue of

 

          6    satisfying the positive criteria, special reasons

 

          7    critieria.

 

          8                MR. DaSILVA: Okay.  So the FCC license and

 

          9    the fact that the location is good for what Verizon

 

         10    wants to do for coverage in this area are the two

 

         11    positive criterias?

 

         12                THE WITNESS: The fact that the FCC license

 

         13    exists, that the carrier has secured the FCC license

 

         14    contributes towards the satisfaction of the positive

 

         15    criteria.  The fact that the site meets the RF

 

         16    requirements or technical requirements in terms of

 

         17    meeting the coverage objective is a specific aspect of

 

         18    the site characteristics that contributes to the

 

         19    particular suitability of the site.

 

         20          Q.    Can you discuss the effects on the

 

         21    character of the neighborhood in reference to putting

 

         22    up a 135-foot pole that's nearly the size of the Statue

 

         23    of Liberty in a residential neighborhood?

 

         24          A.    Well, it obviously has a visual impact,

 

         25    which is why in this particular application the


 

 

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          1    applicant has chosen to do a flagpole because it is at

 

          2    a quasi-public type facility in which a flagpole would

 

          3    normally be found, granted it's taller than most

 

          4    flagpoles.  There is some visual impact.  I don't

 

          5    believe that the visual impact outweighs the positive

 

          6    benefits, just as this flagpole next to this building

 

          7    which is next to a residential building on the south

 

          8    side of the flagpole which is in much closer proximity

 

          9    to that flagpole than the closest residences to this

 

         10    particular flagpole.  Certainly, again, the primary

 

         11    focus from a planning perspective is the visual impact

 

         12    which is the purpose of the visual analysis, and I

 

         13    believe that the result is that the positive benefits

 

         14    outweigh the detriment caused by the visual impact.

 

         15                MR. DaSILVA: You're not comparing this

 

         16    neighborhood to this pole?  That's a completely

 

         17    different neighborhood, that's a main street in town.

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  Well, they're two different

 

         19    neighborhoods, but the fact of the matter is that

 

         20    there's a house about seven or eight feet away on

 

         21    Ringwood Avenue from this existing flagpole.  It's

 

         22    still a house.

 

         23                MR. DaSILVA: Okay.  One of the goals of our

 

         24    zoning ordinance is to maintain the property values of

 

         25    the homes in the area and in the entire town.  Can you


 

 

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          1    discuss the effect or the possible effects of putting a

 

          2    cell phone tower in a neighborhood that they could have

 

          3    on home values?

 

          4                THE WITNESS:  I could not discuss home

 

          5    values.  I'm not a real estate appraiser.  The

 

          6    ordinance, the comprehensive zoning ordinance for the

 

          7    Borough of Wanaque does not permit these particular

 

          8    uses anywhere in the municipality. So it's a use

 

          9    variance regardless of what zone district we were to go

 

         10    in.  And this particular site happens to, in our

 

         11    opinion, meet the particular suitability criteria.

 

         12                MR. DaSILVA:  But also in order to grant

 

         13    the variance the Board has to weigh the positive and

 

         14    negatives that we're discussing, and one of those

 

         15    things that they have to look at is how variances

 

         16    listed in our zoning ordinance affect the decision.

 

         17    One of those things is the property values.

 

         18                THE WITNESS:  But, again, the zoning

 

         19    ordinance does not provide for this use anywhere in the

 

         20    municipality in any zone district residential or

 

         21    nonresidential.  So regardless of where we went in the

 

         22    municipality we would still require a use variance.

 

         23    It's not a question of well instead of going here can

 

         24    you go into another zone district?  We still need the

 

         25    same type of variance relief.


 

 

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          1                And virtually anywhere -- this is primarily

 

          2    with the exception of the corridor along Ringwood

 

          3    Avenue Wanaque is primarily a residential municipality.

 

          4    So practically anywhere, I think, that you were to put

 

          5    this particular facility in Wanaque it would be visible

 

          6    from residential properties.

 

          7                MR. DaSILVA: I know that the RF expert

 

          8    identified 135 feet as being ideal for Verizon

 

          9    Wireless.  Did you look at any of the other scenarios

 

         10    with lowering the pole in reference to simulations or

 

         11    anything like that, what it looked like from different

 

         12    neighborhoods if the pole was lower?

 

         13                THE WITNESS:  No, because again the

 

         14    testimony from the radio frequency expert was that the

 

         15    135 feet was the minimum height necessary to achieve

 

         16    the coverage objective. So, therefore, that was the

 

         17    height that was used for the visual analysis.

 

         18                MR. DaSILVA:  Okay.  Thanks.

 

         19                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Anyone else from the

 

         20    public have any questions for this witness?

 

         21                MR. FAASSE: Open it to the Board.

 

         22                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Anything else from the

 

         23    Board?  Okay.  Close the public portion.

 

         24                MR. FAASSE: Next witness?

 

         25                MS. DUNN:  You're looking at our last


 

 

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          1    witness.  How's that.

 

          2                MR. FAASSE: Okay.  Then we need the

 

          3    architect.

 

          4                MS. DUNN:  The generator question.

 

          5                MR. COLASURDO: The generators are on a

 

          6    timer.  They will be triggered during the day once a

 

          7    week.  They'll be exercised approximately 30 to

 

          8    45 minutes a day, once a week.

 

          9                MR. FAASSE: Once a day, or once a week?

 

         10                MR. COLASURDO: That day.  I think it's a

 

         11    Tuesday.  Every Tuesday during the day they're

 

         12    exercised.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: During daylight hours?

 

         14                MR. COLASURDO: That's correct.

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: Did we have any

 

         16    decibel numbers like at the generator at say a hundred

 

         17    feet from the generator?

 

         18                MR. COLASURDO:  Generators on the side that

 

         19    is closest to the property.  Some of the testing that

 

         20    I've done on existing sites you've got to run about

 

         21    80 decibels on any acoustical baffling.

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: That's without

 

         23    baffling?

 

         24                MR. COLASURDO:  That's correct.  So we're

 

         25    going to have to put some on there to meet the noise


 

 

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          1    decibels.

 

          2                MR. FAASSE: What's the fuel source for this

 

          3    generator?

 

          4                MR. COLASURDO:  This will be diesal.

 

          5                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: It's not natural gas?

 

          6                MR. COLASURDO:  This will be diesal.

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Is that tank, is that

 

          8    fuel storage located -- is it contained in the

 

          9    generator itself?

 

         10                MR. COLASURDO:  That's correct.  There's a

 

         11    double lined wall gas tank that sits underneath the

 

         12    generator that's inside the shelter.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: That's above ground?

 

         14                MR. COLASURDO:  I'm sorry?

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: That will be above

 

         16    ground?

 

         17                MR. COLASURDO:  That's correct.

 

         18                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: I know we had the

 

         19    distance closest residence to the other side of, you

 

         20    know, Villa Place.  What's the closest residence, I

 

         21    guess, would be Grove Street, whatever, on the backside

 

         22    of this generator?

 

         23                THE WITNESS:  I don't believe there are

 

         24    any.  I'm being told about 700 feet.  The photograph on

 

         25    Exhibit A-8 of Grove Street is approximately 700 feet


 

 

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          1    away from the proposed compound.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Can we go back to

 

          3    the generator for a minute?  On the generator you say

 

          4    it's on an automatic test.  But I assume an operation

 

          5    the size of Verizon knows that in New Jersey there's

 

          6    requirements under DEP that that test can the take

 

          7    place when they declare an ozone alert.

 

          8                MR. COLASURDO:  I'm sorry, when a what?

 

          9                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  When the DEP

 

         10    declares an ozone alert.

 

         11                MR. COLASURDO:  Yes.  Verizon is very aware

 

         12    of that.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  So you have a method

 

         14    to alter that testing cycle?

 

         15                MR. COLASURDO:  Again, this facility is

 

         16    monitored remotely 24-hours-a-day, seven-days-a-week.

 

         17    There's a remote switch within inside of this facility

 

         18    inside the shelter.  It's a bunch of bells and

 

         19    whistles.  These guys can control just about everything

 

         20    from that remote switch.  If there's an ozone alert the

 

         21    test ain't done.

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  My point is that

 

         23    frequently ozone alerts what some folks try to do is

 

         24    they do test extremely early in the morning or late at

 

         25    night or on a weekend when an ozone alert is least


 

 

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          1    likely to happen.  Are you testifying before this Board

 

          2    that should an ozone alert situation occur that a test

 

          3    is not going to go off at 5 o'clock in the morning on a

 

          4    Tuesday or a Wednesday, or you can pick any day you

 

          5    want, I really don't care.  The fact of the matter is

 

          6    that that's how folks get around the ozone requirement

 

          7    that you're going to operate within some kind of

 

          8    criteria -- I'm putting up normal business hours, I'm

 

          9    not saying 9 to 5, but some kind of reasonable --

 

         10                MS. DUNN:  We can accept that as a

 

         11    condition of approval.

 

         12                MR. FAASSE: You can put a condition in

 

         13    there.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: That's a good

 

         15    question.  What if something goes haywire, generator

 

         16    kicks off at midnight, has anything been established

 

         17    with the landlord to contact them?  What do we have set

 

         18    up for that?

 

         19                MR. COLASURDO:  If that happens at night

 

         20    Verizon would be alerted and they would dispatch our

 

         21    technician immediately to figure out what the problem

 

         22    is.  It shouldn't kick off at night unless there's an

 

         23    emergency.  If there is a power outage that generator

 

         24    will kick off and then it is exempt from the noise

 

         25    standards.


 

 

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          1                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: Let's say there's an

 

          2    electrical issue not a power outage, anything bright,

 

          3    and do we have set up anything?  Like if the

 

          4    landlord --

 

          5                MS. DUNN:  Remote monitoring.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: Or if the landlord

 

          7    witnessed something with the site.

 

          8                MR. COLASURDO:  If the landlord doesn't

 

          9    like something or they feel something is wrong or it's

 

         10    been tampered and Verizon might not know, my client has

 

         11    a landlord contact.  The landlord should have their

 

         12    number if they have a lease with them and we'll just

 

         13    call them up.

 

         14                MR. GREGOR:  But you're also saying this is

 

         15    remotely monitored and Verizon will immediately know if

 

         16    something happens, is that what you're saying?

 

         17                MR. COLASURDO:  I'll know if somebody

 

         18    tampers -- Verizon will know if anybody tampers with

 

         19    the doors, there's an intrusion alarm, smoke alarms,

 

         20    heat alarms if the air-conditioners aren't working

 

         21    properly and the temperature inside of the shelter

 

         22    rises they know about it. If there's anything wrong

 

         23    with the antennas, if the antenna signals somehow

 

         24    changes, maybe one of the brackets inside the canter

 

         25    got a little bit loose and it tilt changed they'll know


 

 

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          1    about it.  It is monitored 24-hours-a-day,

 

          2    seven-days-a-week.

 

          3                MR. GREGOR:  One of those monitors is the

 

          4    emergency generator?

 

          5                MR. COLASURDO:  Yes.

 

          6                MR. GREGOR:  It's also monitered?

 

          7                MR. COLASURDO:  That's correct.

 

          8                MR. GREGOR:  That's what I thought I heard

 

          9    you say.

 

         10                MR. FAASSE: Maybe just to hold up on this

 

         11    question.  Where is this off-site monitoring actually

 

         12    happening?

 

         13                MR. COLASURDO:  It's in Wayne.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Wayne, New Jersey.

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: You want the zip code

 

         16    too?

 

         17                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I don't know if

 

         18    there's a place in Guam named Wayne.

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Something that came

 

         20    to mind when you said that, how is the monopole

 

         21    serviced once it's erected?

 

         22                MR. COLASURDO:  Visual inspection first.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  But if they had to go

 

         24    up there and do something?

 

         25                MR. COLASURDO:  A bucket truck.  A typical


 

 

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          1    monopole, the steel galvanized poles you might have

 

          2    seen has a series of climbing pegs, and that's how a

 

          3    trained tower climber would get up there.  On this

 

          4    particular monopole if they had to service the antennas

 

          5    up top they would have to get a bucket truck to lift

 

          6    them up there.

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  That would reach 135

 

          8    feet?

 

          9                MR. COLASURDO:  Yeah.

 

         10                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  How close would that

 

         11    have to be to the pole?

 

         12                MR. COLASURDO:  Right in one of the parking

 

         13    spots that we're proposing.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  So it can be outside

 

         15    of that fenced enclosure?

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Fire departments

 

         17    operate platform trucks that go out 60 to 70 feet to

 

         18    service 130 feet up.  They can probably service it from

 

         19    Villa.

 

         20                MR. COLASURDO:  They'd probably service it.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  And that truck could

 

         22    get into the site given the constraints of the diameter

 

         23    of the driveway?

 

         24                MR. COLASURDO:  Yes.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER KONING:  Question.  On the


 

 

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          1    generator the diesel fuel how is that refilled, a truck

 

          2    going to come in?

 

          3                MR. COLASURDO:  Yes.

 

          4                BOARD MEMBER KONING:  A truck like a gas

 

          5    truck?

 

          6                MR. COLASURDO:  Yes, just like an oil

 

          7    truck.

 

          8                MR. FAASSE: What's the galonage of the

 

          9    tank?

 

         10                MR. COLASURDO:  Some sites will have -- it

 

         11    depends on the run time.  These generators will burn

 

         12    about five gallons per hour.  My client likes 48 hours

 

         13    of run time.  So that's 240 gallons.

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  That's contained

 

         15    under the generator?

 

         16                MR. COLASURDO:  Yeah, there's a

 

         17    double-walled gas tank underneath the generator.

 

         18                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  Generator in a

 

         19    contained area?

 

         20                MR. COLASURDO:  Inside a room.  The room is

 

         21    a containment area itself.

 

         22                MR. FAASSE: You know, we might have covered

 

         23    this given the advanced age here.  Did we specify what

 

         24    the color was of this pole was going to be?

 

         25                MR. COLASURDO:  We testified it was going


 

 

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          1    to be white.

 

          2                MR. FAASSE: Not galvanized?

 

          3                MR. COLASURDO:  No, baked on enamel, white.

 

          4                MR. FAASSE: There are other options,

 

          5    though?

 

          6                MR. COLASURDO:  Sure.

 

          7                MR. FAASSE: Soft earth tones?

 

          8                MR. COLASURDO:  If you want this to be pink

 

          9    I'll paint it pink for you.  Whatever color you want I

 

         10    can paint it.

 

         11                MR. FAASSE: We just don't want it

 

         12    galvanized so the sun reflects off of it.  People

 

         13    riding on Ringwood Avenue will have a problem with

 

         14    their vision.

 

         15                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  If there's a service

 

         16    problem how far away is something dispatched?  How fast

 

         17    will they get here to service the problem?

 

         18                MR. COLASURDO:  Either Wayne or branchberg

 

         19    will be the closest.  No more than an hour away.

 

         20                MR. GREGOR:  Mr. Colasurdo, one question I

 

         21    had.  I'm a bit confused.  The emergency generator is

 

         22    it located in the equipment shelter?

 

         23                THE WITNESS:  Inside the equipment shelter.

 

         24                MR. GREGOR:  It is?

 

         25                THE WITNESS:  Yes.


 

 

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          1                MR. GREGOR:  Okay. Because I notice you did

 

          2    have baffling on the equipment shelter, and I thought

 

          3    you mentioned that the generator was not baffled.

 

          4                MR. COLASURDO:  No.  I would recommend

 

          5    putting a shroud over the louvers and that's how I'm

 

          6    going to reduce the decibel levels.

 

          7                MR. GREGOR:  Add additional --

 

          8                MR. COLASURDO: A hospital grade critical

 

          9    silencer, that's one of the techniques that we use to

 

         10    reduce the sound.  And over the louvers that you see on

 

         11    Sheet Z-5 we put a sheet metal shroud that has acoustic

 

         12    installation inside, directs the noise down and absorbs

 

         13    the noise.  That's how we treat the reduction of the

 

         14    decibels that we need.

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: What do you feel

 

         16    you'll be able to reduce it to?

 

         17                MR. COLASURDO:  State limits, which I

 

         18    recommend would be 65.  Since the test is going on

 

         19    during the day I have to meet 65 decibels on that

 

         20    property line.  Again, at night this thing is running.

 

         21    The only reason it should be running is under an

 

         22    emergency situation.  It's exempt when it's being run

 

         23    on an emergency situation.

 

         24                MR. FAASSE: Any other questions?

 

         25                MR. GREGOR:  You'll add a note to the


 

 

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          1    drawing to cover that change?

 

          2                MR. COLASURDO:  Yes.

 

          3                MR. FAASSE: You'd better make a note of

 

          4    that.

 

          5                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Any other questions,

 

          6    gentlemen?

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  I'm sorry.  I have a

 

          8    question.  I'm going to address it to the attorney,

 

          9    because I don't know who else to ask it to.

 

         10                MS. DUNN:  Fair enough.

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Does your lease with

 

         12    the landlord hold -- provide for an adequate hold

 

         13    harmless cause for liability if anything were to happen

 

         14    in, on, or around the --

 

         15                MS. DUNN:  That's typical language, yes.

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  So there is an

 

         17    adequate hold harmless clause?

 

         18                MR. FAASSE: And I would assume that you

 

         19    would have to provide some kind of insurance?

 

         20                MS. DUNN:  Sure.

 

         21                MR. FAASSE: Yes, no?

 

         22                MS. DUNN:  Sure.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  So if I put that as a

 

         24    condition, if that was put as a condition --

 

         25                MS. DUNN:  I can represent to you that


 

 

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          1    Verizon Wireless has determined the adequate hold

 

          2    harmless and adequate insurance coverage.  What we have

 

          3    to tend to shy away from is each local governmental

 

          4    entity tweaking the corporate mandates as to what's

 

          5    required.  I can tell you the landlord here has

 

          6    determined that it's sufficient, as has Verizon

 

          7    Wireless.

 

          8                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Does your lease also

 

          9    contain a restoration clause?  And the reason I say

 

         10    that is if in the event 15 years from now the use of

 

         11    that monopole is abandoned for wireless communication

 

         12    will it be restored to its original state, including

 

         13    the removal of the accessory structure?

 

         14                MS. DUNN:  Absolutely.

 

         15                MR. FAASSE: Would there be any problem with

 

         16    sharing with the Board that lease?

 

         17                MS. DUNN:  Yes.

 

         18                MR. FAASSE: There would be?

 

         19                MS. DUNN: Yes.

 

         20                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Are you going to say

 

         21    it's proprietary?

 

         22                MS. DUNN:  Bingo.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN: Yeah, I can.

 

         24                MR. FAASSE: These are questions,

 

         25    restoration and all that.  I mean, we don't want to set


 

 

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          1    the levels of insurance, but we want to make sure that

 

          2    you do have some kind of insurance.

 

          3                MS. DUNN:  If this can help apease you with

 

          4    your concerns I'm advised that the Borough solicitor

 

          5    represented the landlord in these negotiations.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: The Borough who?

 

          7                MS. DUNN:  The Borough solicitor, the

 

          8    attorney.

 

          9                MR. FAASSE: That's the English version for

 

         10    an attorney at law, you have the barristers and

 

         11    solicitors.  She may have come over here from Merry Old

 

         12    England.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  And they'll provide

 

         14    a certificate to the town of the insurance that they

 

         15    have it?

 

         16                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Well, if the Borough

 

         17    Attorney agreed to it.  But as far as the restoration

 

         18    clause that is in there also to --

 

         19                MS. DUNN:  Sure.  We understand we can't --

 

         20                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Just abandon.

 

         21                MS. DUNN:  Walk away and leave that there.

 

         22                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  And you do maintain

 

         23    the pole throughout the whole time of its existence if

 

         24    it should have to be painted?

 

         25                MS. DUNN:  Certainly.


 

 

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          1                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Okay.  Anything else,

 

          2    gentlemen?

 

          3                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  Do you maintain the

 

          4    flag also?

 

          5                MS. DUNN: The flag?  As requested by the

 

          6    property owner, the landlord or the property owner will

 

          7    do so.

 

          8                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN:  The landlord will

 

          9    provide and maintain the flag?

 

         10                MS. DUNN:  Yes.

 

         11                MR. FAASSE: It's going to be an American

 

         12    Flag?  We weren't sure the last time.

 

         13                THE WITNESS:  Yes.

 

         14                MS. DUNN:  That's another condition of

 

         15    approval that they would all be willing to agree to.

 

         16    I'm assuming that's what the property owner has

 

         17    envisioned, and that's certainly who's --

 

         18                MR. FAASSE: We haven't seen the lease.

 

         19                MS. DUNN:  That's certainly whose flag is

 

         20    in the photo simulation.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: So if the flag has to

 

         22    be replaced the landlord is going to be responsible?

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Well, no, it's a

 

         24    lanyard.

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  It's a lanyard.


 

 

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          1    Because the one out here I believe is too.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: No.  If the Golden

 

          3    Agers have to do it it's going to be a problem.

 

          4                MR. FAASSE: Why don't we get a flag like

 

          5    the ones that are flown over the capital?

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: Okay.  Anything else,

 

          7    Counselor?  You rest?

 

          8                MS. DUNN:  Just from a minor technical or

 

          9    procedural standpoint, I do believe it's necessary that

 

         10    we reopen to the public in light of Mr. Colasurdo's

 

         11    very previous additional testimony.

 

         12                MR. FAASSE: No, no.  We have to have public

 

         13    statements too.

 

         14                MS. DUNN:  For our --

 

         15                MR. FAASSE: Get your cross-examination

 

         16    skills ready.

 

         17                MS. DUNN:  For our purposes, yes, I do

 

         18    rest.  I thank you for your time, attention, your

 

         19    suggestions this evening, and go at it.

 

         20                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  I open it to the public.

 

         21                MR. FAASSE: Anyone who wants to make a

 

         22    statement come up and be sworn.

 

         23                MR. FAASSE: Okay.  Do you have this

 

         24    gentleman's name?

 

         25    D A V I D   D a S I L V A, having been duly sworn,


 

 

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          1    testifies as follows:

 

          2                MR. DaSILVA: I have a big concern about

 

          3    whether or not Verizon Wireless has given us enough

 

          4    evidence that this new antennae pole is necessary.  I

 

          5    did some research independantly and found that in other

 

          6    locations Verizon Wireless actually does test with

 

          7    phones as opposed with meters analyzing whether or not

 

          8    those phones receive a proper signal, drop the call, et

 

          9    cetera.  When I questioned the RF expert two months ago

 

         10    he indicated that he did not know what the maximum

 

         11    decibel loss of each of their hand-held unit was.  And

 

         12    I still don't know if we know that today.

 

         13                All the information I've requested about

 

         14    dropped calls, loss of service on each hand-held unit

 

         15    was said to be proprietary.  So I believe that Verizon

 

         16    has not demonstrated a need for this facility, and I

 

         17    think that is the most important aspect, regardless of

 

         18    what it looks like, how tall it is, and the effects

 

         19    that it has on the residents which I think are

 

         20    significant.  I don't know if it's necessary, and

 

         21    that's a major concern of mine.  That's all I have.

 

         22                MR. FAASSE: Counsel, do you have any

 

         23    questions of Mr. DaSilva?

 

         24                MS. DUNN:  No, thank you.  Sorry to

 

         25    disappoint you.


 

 

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          1                MR. FAASSE: No, no disappointments.  It's

 

          2    your option.

 

          3                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Anyone else from the

 

          4    public have any statements to make?  Okay.  Close the

 

          5    public portion.

 

          6                MR. FAASSE: Okay.  Unless the Board sees

 

          7    fit that you want some other evidence or information

 

          8    prior to making a determination.

 

          9                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Would Counsel like

 

         10    her RF specialist to comment on that on the statement

 

         11    made?

 

         12                MS. DUNN:  I don't believe it's necessary

 

         13    to respond to that characterization.  Thank you.

 

         14                MR. FAASSE: Okay, Tommy?

 

         15                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  All right.  We need a

 

         16    motion.

 

         17                MR. FAASSE: Well, you need a motion to

 

         18    approve or to deny, or you need a request for further

 

         19    additional information to carry it.  One of those

 

         20    three.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  I make the motion to

 

         22    approve the application for three use variances:

 

         23                First, will be the use to construct a cell

 

         24    tower in the AAH Zone; the second use variance will be

 

         25    for a variance of 50 feet in height where the applicant


 

 

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          1    is proposing 135 feet, and 85 feet is allowed; the

 

          2    third use would be for two uses on one site.

 

          3                They will also require the following bulk

 

          4    variances:  A lot variance of 398.626 acres, where the

 

          5    applicant is proposing 1.374 acres, where 400 acres is

 

          6    required by ordinance.  A variance for a front yard

 

          7    setback of 72.75 feet, where the applicant is providing

 

          8    27.25 feet, where 100 feet is required by ordinance.

 

          9                A variance for a rear yard setback for the

 

         10    accessory structure of 93.4 feet, where the applicant

 

         11    is providing 6.6 feet, where 100 feet is required by

 

         12    ordinance.  A requirement for a rear yard setback of

 

         13    the monopole of 89.34 feet, where the applicant is

 

         14    providing 10.66 feet, where 100 feet is required by

 

         15    ordinance.  A variance on the parking aisles, the

 

         16    applicant is providing one foot, where the applicant is

 

         17    providing 24 feet, where 25 feet is required by

 

         18    ordinance.

 

         19                And additional parking variance for seven

 

         20    parking spaces on the northeast side of the lot which

 

         21    are -- which the applicant is providing a

 

         22    10-foot-by-19-foot space, where the ordinance requires

 

         23    a 10-by-20-foot space.

 

         24                I would also have the following conditions

 

         25    as part of the motion:  Number one, to provide the


 

 

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          1    additional site signage as per testimony this evening,

 

          2    which would be coordinated with the Board engineer.

 

          3                Number two would be to improve the gravel

 

          4    area, existing gravel area in the northeast location of

 

          5    the site which was discussed tonight.

 

          6                Number three would be to move the parking

 

          7    space number one to the north side of the site, and to

 

          8    restrict parking of that area just north of the

 

          9    accessory structure.

 

         10                Next one would be to provide an exterior

 

         11    pole light in the newly constructed grass area.

 

         12                Next would be, as per prior testimony, I

 

         13    believe, in January that the pole will be made

 

         14    available for emergency service usage.  And that would

 

         15    be it for my conditions.

 

         16                MR. FAASSE: It's going to be a US flag lit?

 

         17                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: It's going to be a US

 

         18    flag.

 

         19                MR. FAASSE: Do you want the color?  White

 

         20    is fine?

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  White is fine with

 

         22    me.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Do you want to say a

 

         24    timer or photocell on that light pole or light that's

 

         25    in the grassed area?


 

 

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          1                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I will second the

 

          2    motion if the motion maker amends his motion to include

 

          3    the fact that under testimony the applicant agreed that

 

          4    any testing on the generator will be done, if I said 7

 

          5    a.m. to 7 p.m. is that acceptable?

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  One thing I had

 

          7    written here also that the applicant under testimony

 

          8    tonight did agree to restripe the entire north end of

 

          9    the parking lot as an additional condition.

 

         10                MR. GREGOR:  And additional noise baffling.

 

         11                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Well, he has to meet

 

         12    the code anyway.

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: But it's supposed to

 

         14    be in the drawing too.

 

         15                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I second the

 

         16    amendments to his motion.

 

         17                MR. FAASSE: What about your whole

 

         18    conversation about the maintenance?

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: They testified that

 

         20    it's in there in the lease.

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  The solicitor for

 

         22    the Borough?

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  I mean, I don't know

 

         24    that we can put that in as a --

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  The solicitor for


 

 

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          1    the Borough is responsible for that?

 

          2                MS. DUNN:  If I can just --

 

          3                (Whereupon, Mrs. Dunn's client knods in the

 

          4    affirmative.)

 

          5                MR. FAASSE: Well, the restoration I have no

 

          6    difficulties with the liability.  I don't think this

 

          7    Board should sit there and say how much coverage is

 

          8    sufficient, but I think we can probably say that there

 

          9    has to be a whole agreement and insurance provided that

 

         10    would meet the approval of the landlord's attorney, in

 

         11    this situation it happens to be the Borough Attorney.

 

         12    Do you have any problem with a condition like that?  I

 

         13    mean, apparantly they agreed to it already.  We just

 

         14    want to make sure that it's there.

 

         15                MS. DUNN:  That's fine.  Again, it's in the

 

         16    lease already.  I just want to answer your question,

 

         17    sir, the 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. I think you asked me that

 

         18    question, yes.  But --

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  Well, actually, I

 

         20    saw the people behind you knodding their heads yes.

 

         21                MR. FAASSE: It's Monday through Friday.

 

         22                MS. DUNN:  Understood.  Business hours.

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: So do you want to put

 

         24    that condition?

 

         25                MR. FAASSE: Yes.  That it would be a hold


 

 

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          1    harmless agreement and restoration clause.

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  To be satisfied.

 

          3                MS. DUNN:  To the satisfaction of the

 

          4    leasor's attorney, again.

 

          5                MR. FAASSE: The leasor's attorney.

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Signers of the lease.

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Hold harmless

 

          8    agreement and restoration clause to be reviewed by the

 

          9    Borough Solicitor.

 

         10                MS. DUNN:  My only other request for

 

         11    clarification, Sir, the paving requirement and

 

         12    restriping that's only on the property, our portion of

 

         13    the property?

 

         14                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  Correct.  And your're

 

         15    not going to improve property that's not yours.

 

         16                MS. DUNN:  Thank you.

 

         17                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  When we say "your

 

         18    side" from where the roadway narrows north?  You're

 

         19    nodding back there?

 

         20                MS. DUNN:  If they aren't they should be at

 

         21    this point.

 

         22                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Did we miss anything in

 

         23    the report?

 

         24                MR. FAASSE: Just so that it's clear when

 

         25    you talk about that light that's on the grass strip


 

 

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          1    it's not the light on this monopole.

 

          2                MR. GREGOR: No.

 

          3                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  No, a new light.  A

 

          4    new parking light.

 

          5                MR. FAASSE: Which the details will be added

 

          6    to the site plan to be approved.

 

          7                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS:  To be coordinated

 

          8    with the Board engineer to ensure that it does not

 

          9    infringe upon the neighbors.

 

         10                MR. FAASSE: Okay.  Does anybody have

 

         11    anything else to add to the motion?  Now, do you second

 

         12    that, Frank?

 

         13                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI:  I second it with the

 

         14    amendments stated.

 

         15                CHAIRMAN DUNNING:  Roll call.

 

         16                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Jack Dunning?

 

         17                CHAIRMAN DUNNING: Yes.

 

         18                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Bill Grygus?

 

         19                BOARD MEMBER GRYGUS: Yes.

 

         20                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Frank Covelli?

 

         21                BOARD MEMBER COVELLI: Yes.

 

         22                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Peter Hoffman?

 

         23                BOARD MEMBER HOFFMAN: No.

 

         24                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Ed Leonard?

 

         25                BOARD MEMBER LEONARD: Yes.


 

 

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          1                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Art Koning?

 

          2                BOARD MEMBER KONING: Yes.

 

          3                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Eric Willse?

 

          4                BOARD MEMBER WILLSE: Yes.

 

          5                SECRETARY MAROTTA: Mike O'Hanlon?

 

          6                BOARD MEMBER O'HANLON: Yes.

 

          7                MS. DUNN:  Thank you very much.  As a

 

          8    matter of housekeeping do you wish me to take all the

 

          9    exhibits?

 

         10                MR. FAASSE: No.  Not until the time for

 

         11    appeal has left.

 

         12                MS. DUNN:  Okay. Fair enough.

 

         13                MR. FAASSE: Sorry.  Sorry about that.  You

 

         14    can have them after that.

 

         15                MS. DUNN:  I just want to clarify, the

 

         16    Exhibit A-7 that was the joint site plans.

 

         17                MR. FAASSE: Yes, that was just the

 

         18    amendments that were filed.

 

         19                MS. DUNN:  Right.  With the exception --

 

         20                MR. FAASSE: We'll have our stenographer

 

         21    prepare the Exhibit list.

 

         22                MS. DUNN:  The only difference is in A-7

 

         23    Sheets Z-3 and Z-4 bear the revision date of 2/2/07.

 

         24                MR. FAASSE: We notice different ones and

 

         25    there's space in Mr. Gregor's report.


 

 

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          3                (Whereupon, the hearing on this application

 

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          1                      C E R T I F I C A T E

 

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          3             I, IRIS LA ROSA, a Notary Public and Certified

 

          4    Shorthand Reporter of the State of New Jersey, do

 

          5    hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and

 

          6    accurate transcript of the testimony as taken

 

          7    stenographically by and before me at the time, place,

 

          8    and on the date hereinbefore set forth.

 

          9             I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a

 

         10    relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel of any

 

         11    of the parties to this action, and that I am neither a

 

         12    relative nor employee of such attorney or counsel, and

 

         13    that I am not financially interested in the action.

 

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