BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
MEETING
BOROUGH OF WANAQUE
MINUTES
August 2, 2006
Regular Meeting
Salute to Flag:
This is a Regular Meeting of the Wanaque Board of
Adjustment and adequate notice has been duly advertised by the mailing of a
notice to the Suburban Trends and the Herald & News on the 6th
day of January 2006 and a notice has been posted on the bulletin board in the
Municipal Building and a copy thereof is on file with the Borough Clerk.
ROLL CALL:
Chairman Jack Dunning, Members Frank Covelli, Peter Hoffman, Don Ludwig,
Ed Leonard, Art Koning, Eric Willse, Attorney Ralph Faasse and Engineer William
Gregor.
Member Absent:
Member Bruce Grygus and Member Ted Roberto.
Application #11-05 Cosimo & Teresa Santoro,
Atty. Faasse said this application was carried last month through the September Meeting at the request of the applicant’s Attorney Carlo Coppa.
Application #19-05 Biggio Brothers,
Inc.,
The Board Secretary received a letter dated July 20, 2006 from Attorney James R. Gregory. In the letter, Atty. Gregory said that it appears that the issues regarding this application between the next door neighbor and the easement are going to be resolved, therefore, he requested that the Board reactivate this application and put them on the October Agenda.
APPLICATION TABLED FOR THE MOMENT.
Application #12-06 Antonino & Maria Staropoli,
The Board Secretary received a letter dated July 26, 2006 from the applicant’s Atty. Giuseppe C. Randazzo stating that his client’s have decided to withdraw their application.
MOTION TO DISMISS APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE:
made by Member Ludwig, seconded by Member Covelli, voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and Willse.
Application #07-06 Eric J. & Kathleen Miceli,
Application #13-06 John & Dorothy DeDiminicantanio, 28 & 32 Greenwood Ave., Block 428 Lots 6-8, 9,10,11, & 13.01, Minor Subdivision & Bulk Variances:
The
Board Secretary received a letter dated July 27, 2006 from Attorney Darryl W.
Siss of Teschon, Riccobene & Siss. Atty. Siss is taking over this application
since Atty. H. Shepard Peck has retired. In the letter, Atty. Siss asked for
this application to be carried to the September 6, 2006 Meeting since their
engineer needed time to respond to the comments and requirements made in the
July 3, 2006 letter from Eng. Gregor.
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH
MEETING: made by Member
Ludwig, seconded by Member Willse, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members
Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and Willse.
Application #16-06 Kevin & Katherine Koslosky,
Mr.
& Mrs. Koslosky came forward. Chairman Dunning said plans were submitted
and
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH MEETING:
made by Member Covelli, seconded by Member Ludwig, voting yes
were Chairman Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and
Willse.
Application #21-05 Mary Frances & William Fennelly,
Attorney
Steven C. Schepis came forward on behalf of the applicants. Atty. Schepis
reminded the Board that at the last meeting he made the suggestion to the Board
of creating a deed restriction that would run with the land so as to guarantee
that what was proposed here this evening would be developed on the property and
that it would be maintained. Atty. Schepis said he prepared a proposed
“Development Restriction” and submitted it to the Board Secretary with an
original and twelve copies under his cover letter of July 12, 2006.
Atty.
Faasse mentioned that the file has a letter from the Fire Department stating
that they have no objections to the proposed dwelling. A letter from the
Wanaque Police Department also was submitted stating that they will provide
service to this proposed home as they do to the other homes on that roadway.
Atty. Faasse added that the applicant was going to meet with neighbors. Atty.
Schepis said,
toward that house under existing conditions. Therefore, eliminating
the berm for a second, the idea of restoring or trying to establish a sheet
flow all on its own,
Atty.
Schepis suggested maybe they could take a few moments and discuss this plan
with the neighbor now. Chairman Dunning said the other problem is that the plan
wasn’t on file 10 days before the meeting. Atty. Schepis answered by saying the
10- day rule ordinarily applies to applications and plans that they were
seeking approval for and this is more of an accommodation for the neighbor.
Atty. Faasse spoke up and said, why should the Board with the
agenda they have tonight and the fact that this matter was heard back in
June, should the Board accommodate the applicant.
Chairman
Dunning said if the berm (with white pines) is just a shelter to hide the wall
and you’re trying to redirect water, there’s a conflicting view of where that
water is going. The plan should also show the location of the house, the pool
should be on there and maybe a little typography of how they think what
direction the water is going to go.
Rita Barriero, 9 Shady Ave. came forward. Ms. Barriero is the neighbor whose property
will be affected by this proposed structure. Ms. Barriero said she has not seen
the plan yet.
Atty.
Faasse suggested they could either carry the application to the September
Meeting with an extension, or give them a few minutes now to discuss the plan.
Atty.
Schepis said the neighbor is willing to meet with the engineer and the
applicant and will carry the application to the September 6th
Meeting.
MOTION TO CARRY THE APPLICATION TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH
MEETING: made by Member
Ludwig, seconded by Member Covelli, voting yes
were Chairman Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig,
Leonard, Koning and Willse.
Atty.
Schepis signed a 90 day Extension Letter for the Board.
Application #07-06 Eric J. & Kathleen Miceli,
No
one was here for this application. Atty. Faasse said he looked through the file
and there is no Extension Letter in the file. The Board Secretary will send a
letter dismissing the application without prejudice unless they grant the Board
an extension of time.
MOTION TO DISMISS APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE UNLESS THE
APPLICANT’S GRANT AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO THE BOARD: made by Member Leonard, seconded by Member Willse,
voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman Ludwig, Leonard,
Koning and Willse.
Application #09-06 Edward & Gail Marsh Sr.,
Mr.
Marsh came forward.
Atty.
Faasse mentioned there is a problem with the plans not being in file 10 days
before the meeting. Chairman Dunning said the other issue is what zone this
property is actually in. Originally, the Board believed it was an R-10 and now
it shows up as an RD-3. Mr. Marsh said when he started this application, it was
explained to him that the property is in an RD-3 Zone. According to Surveyor,
John Miceli, this property doesn’t fall into the criteria of an RD-3 Zone
because that zone is more for a multi-family or more than one unit; therefore,
he put this application at an R-10 Zone. Chairman Dunning added that RD-3 is multiple
housing, and a single-family dwelling is not permitted in the RD-3.
Eng.
Gregor was going to go over his report dated July 31, 2006 that is based on the
latest plan dated July 19th and the latest survey dated June 16th.
Chairman
Dunning told Mr. Marsh he will have to re-notify the general public that he now
needs a Use Variance based the zoning and what it permits and doesn’t permit.
Mr. Marsh asked if he had to notify everyone within 200 ft. and the newspaper
and was told yes. Atty. Faasse explained to Mr. Marsh that he is now in an RD-3
Zone which means single-family houses are not permitted. However, Mr. Marsh has
the right to continue his house because he has a valid pre-existing
non-conforming use, however, if he wants to expand that he then has to go for a
Use Variance because he’s not a permitted use and that’s why he has to give
notice and is changing from a Bulk Variance to a Use Variance. The Board will also
need an extension from Mr. Marsh for 90 days.
Mr.
Marsh said he finds it very strange that he has to comply to
a 10-day rule, but yet
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH
MEETING PROVIDED THE APPLICANT RE-NOTICE THE PUBLIC AND THE NEWSPAPER FOR A USE
VARIANCE AND THE PLANS BE ON FILE 10 DAYS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING: made by Member Ludwig,
seconded by Member Willse, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members Covelli,
Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and Willse.
Application #10-06 Nicholas Miuccio,
The
plans for this application were received on July 27, 2006 and not 10 days
before the meeting. Atty. Faasse asked Mr. Miuccio if he received a copy of
MOTION TO CARRY APPLICATION TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH
MEETING DUE TO THE FACT THE PLANS WERE NOT ON FILE MORE THAN 10 BEFORE THE
MEETING: made by Member
Hoffman, seconded by Member Koning, voting yes were Chairman Dunning, Members
Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and Willse.
RECESSED AT 9:21 P.M.
RECONVENED AT 9:33 P.M.
Everyone
present as before the break.
Application #14-06 Dave & Jill Szanto,
Mr.
Szanto came forward and said he only received
Chairman Dunning asked Mr. Szanto if the old garage has
been removed? Mr. Szanto said no and will have to wait
until he gets approved so he can take everything from one to put in the other.
Mr. Szanto said he has had another child since the last application and has
accumulated more stuff and therefore needs the new garage. Chairman Dunning
asked Mr. Szanto why he needs this third garage. Mr. Szanto explained his wife
has two cars and works in
Chairman Dunning said, one potential problem is that he’ll be only 5 ft. from the property and the garage is almost on the property line and that is a very unsafe distance for someone jumping off the garage into the pool and breaking their neck. Chairman Dunning said that’s why the standard from basically anything is 10 ft. Mr. Szanto said he really doubts that anyone is going to climb up on the roof and jump off and has never seen anyone on the roof. One of the members said all you need is someone to climb up once and Mr. Szanto could be in a lot of trouble. Mr. Szanto said with all the vegetation around it there’s no way to get up there. Chairman Dunning said it becomes a major liability and it’s a safety concern that the Board stresses. Atty. Faasse said the Board doesn’t make these rules and the Mayor & Council are the ones who deemed this ruling of a pool being 10 ft. away from a structure to be appropriate. Member Covelli asked what is the distance between the block patio and the property line with the garage. Mr. Szanto said approximately 35 ft. Member Covelli then asked Mr. Szanto what is his concern about the pool being closer to the block patio. Mr. Szanto said if he has it there the splash over will hit his grill and would be to close for people sitting on the patio.
Chairman Dunning said to Mr. Szanto, this is his
application, if he wants to stay with the 5 feet it’s his choice and the Board
is only expressing their concerns with a swimming pool. Chairman Dunning also
said, if he sells the house tomorrow and the neighbor next door sells their
house and two different families living there and the garage and pool are still
there; the variance is for the life of the property and that’s the problem. Mr.
Szanto said, maybe he could give a foot or foot ½ and compromise a little bit.
Chairman Dunning asked how high is the garage? Mr.
Szanto said its 23 ft. high. Eng. Gregor said if you look at plan A-4 and look
at the north elevation its 23.0 ft. and look at the west elevation its 23.4 ft.
Mr. Szanto said the correct number is 23 ft. Chairman Dunning wanted to know
the height of the ceiling in the garage level on A-3 and approximate height in
the storage level. Mr. Szanto said the height of the garage ceiling would be 9
ft. and approximate storage height depending on where your standing would be
anywhere from 3 ½ ft. on the ends up to the collar ties would be 6.6 ft. or 7
ft. Chairman Dunning wanted to know how do you access the storage area? Mr.
Szanto said there will be a set of stairs and hasn’t decided yet whether it
will be a full set of stairs, pull down or built in
stairs. Chairman Dunning also wanted to know if he was bringing water into the
garage and Mr. Szanto said no. Chairman Dunning asked Mr. Szanto if he thought
the 30’ X 16’ garage size was overkill. Mr. Szanto said his shed right now is
about 15 X 26 and the new garage is not really that much bigger and its really
not a two story structure and the way the tree line is, it won’t stand out like
a sore thumb. Mr. Szanto also said that’s why he pulled the garage forward to match
the front of the house. Chairman Dunning wanted to know if Mr. Szanto
considered joining the garage to the dwelling? Mr.
Szanto said yes he did but moving the stairwell and doorway is too much of a
hassle. Mr. Szanto asked if he was to put a railing system, which is sold for
pools that are below four feet high so you can’t climb over and get in, would
that help out with the garage and no one jumping in? Chairman Dunning said it’s
still a removable structure and if he were to sell the house, the next person
could remove it. Chairman Dunning reiterated, that people do
stupid things by jumping into pools from roof tops etc. and breaking their
necks because they’re too close to the jumping point and that is what the Board
is looking at. Mr. Szanto said when people buy snow blowers there is a
warning not to put their hands in while the machine is on and people still do;
this is the same concept as the pool issue and you have to assume people know
better. Chairman Dunning had another concern about the aligning the garage with
the house and that it would be very easy over the years to join it to the
house. Mr. Szanto said with the exception of the stairwell; the stairwell is a
big excavation and there’s no way to join it because of the stairwell height
there’s no way to go over and join it and would be major construction.
Atty. Faasse asked Mr. Szanto
if he would like the Board to vote on the application as presented with the
pool and garage in their present location and Mr. Szanto said yes.
OPEN TO PUBLIC:
None/Closed
Chairman Dunning asked Mr.
Szanto if his proposal is to stay with the drawing as drawn and Mr. Szanto said
yes. Chairman Dunning also asked the applicant if he was planning on dealing
with any storm water management on his property. Mr. Szanto said he was going
to use the natural pitch of the property. Mr. Szanto said he’s only asking for
2½% of lot coverage more than is required and the ground is like a sponge.
Chairman Dunning said the proposed driveway is not shown and Mr. Szanto said he
doesn’t propose to have a driveway where Chairman Dunning is talking about. The
reason is because its only going to be used for
intermediate use and the door is more for show than anything. Mr. Szanto said
he proposes to drive off the side of the driveway that’s there and over the
frozen ground. The garage is solely going to be used for storage and not as a
garage.
MOTION TO DENY
APPLICATION: made by Member Ludwig, seconded by Member Hoffman, voting yes
to deny the application were Chairman Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman,
Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and Willse.
Mr. Szanto spoke up and said if you drive around the neighborhood and
you see all the pools like an 18 ft. pool in a 20 ft. backyard with a two story
deck; it seems ridiculous and that’s the reason people come to the Board for a
variance and he’s asking for a variance for something that’s never going to
happen like jumping off a roof. You would have to get a ladder to get up there.
He could understand if there was a tree that a kid could climb but there’s no
physical way to get up on the garage without getting a ladder and for the Board
to deny an application over something like that seems ludicrous.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
None
Mr. Szanto came back to the microphone and said, back in 2003 someone came to the Board and had a pool that was 5ft. from a structure and the Board approved it.
RESOLUTIONS: None
CORRESPONDENCE: None
VOUCHERS: submitted by
Eng. Gregor for Engineering Services for Application #07-06 Miceli for $265.50,
Application #09-06 Marsh for $259.50, Application #10-06 Miuccio for $326.00,
Application #13-06 DeDiminicantanio for $334.00, for a Grand Total of $1185.00.
MOTION TO APPROVE:
made by Member Ludwig, seconded by Member Koning, voting yes were Chairman
Dunning, Members Covelli, Hoffman, Ludwig, Leonard, Koning and Willse.
MINUTES: No minutes
were presented due to the fact the Board Secretary was on vacation and didn’t
have time to complete them.
ENGINEER’S REPORT:
Engineer Gregor said there is a new application on
DISCUSSION: Member Covelli brought up the fact that the
Board still hasn’t received their nameplates and directed the secretary to
check into this matter.
Chairman Dunning brought up
the Mandatory Training Classes for Land Use Board Members that is being
sponsored by the
MOTION TO ADJOURN: at 10:20 P.M. carried by a voice vote.
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Gerri Marotta
Board of Adjustment Secretary